This article about Venker...makes me very much want to vent. I am a fantastic man. Educated, brilliant, devoted to Jesus Christ, engineer, scientist, patents, publications, just sold a home.... I put on a decent pressed shirt and dress pants and to the local sort-of-conservative Presbyterian Church. Do you know what happens with single women during coffee chit chat there? They ignore me. I try to strike up conversation. They treat me like either a piece of furniture or a 3 week old dead fish. I am not skinny, but not fat. I am slightly better than average looks. Do they care? No. Unless you stand in front of them, stick your hand out, and make it impossible for them to avoid, they avoid. Why? Because they are all going to marry/talk-to only: perfect body, perfect face, perfect money, perfect car, perfect spirituality that is soooper spiritual but never rocks the boat - on and on. Evangelical Conservative Suburban Karen has a list 93 items long for what she “must” have. I’ve dated many conservative-Christian-women and am now exhausted. They cannot be pleased.
If you talk to the typical one in college, when she is at her most attractive and most fertile for making intelligent babies - they won’t DREAM of getting married. They are going to finish their degree, then their masters, many their phd, then they are going to work for a while, then they are going to look for someone, then IF he’s “compatible” THEN they will THINK about getting married, which they ThINK is going to happen at 30. THEY ARE MORONS. They think ENTIRELY about THEIR OWN IDEALISM and have NO CLUE about the male physiology or interest. They can’t grasp that female bodies produce healthiest babies and healthiest Mom when they are 18 to 24, and because they think its “unfair” that man are most interested in them then - they refuse to grasp that men will be MUCH less interested when they are 37.
I think the chief reason for the collapse of population in the USA (outside of illegal immigrants) is: conservative Christian evangelical women who won’t marry, because every man they encounter is so far beneath them, they can’t consider him.
The major problem is: female Christian evangelical college educated think that THEY are HIGH STATUS because of their college degree and their sooooper spiritual Christian devotion. AS SUCH, they regard all men at “their level” to be unattractive, because such men are not higher-status, and as such the females dismiss them. Then these women go get a masters degree to “keep looking”. But then they are an even higher-status female in their own eyes and can’t “marry down”. They “just aren’t attracted”.
Over and over, my entire life, the pagan women have been attracted to me. And when I go to chuch, I meet an ice castle of ice princesses who are FAR too superior and FAR too high-status to even-think of going out with me. Again and again I have turned down the pagan women, and tried to do what God wants, which is to corrall the undatedable and unmarriagable Christian female. But I am worn out. I think
this week I”m just going to bring some cute unbelieving female to church to make all the sooooperior ice-princesses angry.
So there! You did it! Blew my gasket!
I will also point out that almost every country outside
the USA, if they stick to their nation’s conservative values, are FAR better than the American single women.
But then, they all want to become Americanized, and they
try to behave like suburban Karen. Today I had a long
conversation with a Chinese girl who is not a Christian,
and it was the best thing that happened to me in months.
Gotta try to get her to church on Sunday so all the Karens
can be miffed.
1. The laws have to change....shake-down hypergamy, men lose it all laws.
2. The Proverbs 31 real woman vs. the boss girls and unrepentant sold out John Chapter 4 women.
3. As prophesied, “Remember Lot’s wife. “As in the Days of Lot”.
4. Know of, vs. “they knew not” Matt. 24. That’s the Hope.
Careful there. CCCP has planted honey pots. If I were a young man (I’m not; I’m a senior woman who believes the 19th should be repealed; today’s college educated know less than I knew in 3rd grade) I’d convert to Mennonite.
“They cannot be pleased.”
Democrat
You sound like you care too much what these church women think. Forget them. Marry one of the likely girls you’re successful with, have kids, take kids to church, invite mom along.!Who knows, maybe God wants you to make a believer out of one of these pagans.
“...they are all going to marry/talk-to only: perfect body, perfect face, perfect money, perfect car,...”
The internet is packed with conversations much like your experiences. The men the girls want are called ‘Chads’ (if not black) or ‘Tyrones’ (if black). These men are the ‘666’ or ‘6666’ males ie:
6 - six feet tall (average USA male is 5’9”)
6 - pack abs (average USA man is 10-12 lbs overweight)
6 - figure income (only 8-10% of men make over $100,000)
... and next is a to-be-determined-later requirement
6 - inch johnson (average USA penis length is 5.2 inches)
So the members of that coven are all competing for less than 10% of the male population. Most of them will find a unicorn before their ideal male notices them.
Convert her
Son wouldnt go near Christian women.
A d he is a 10 in every way.
Consider becoming a “passport bro” and seek a good traditional woman overseas. The Philipines for instance. Supposedly there are many attractive women there who would highly value a man like you. Of course there are also scam artists so be careful.
Go to a conservative Presbyterian church in a Chinese neighborhood.
Nice rant. There are lots of single, Christian young women around here. They say all the dudes play video games and watch porn. Then, go hang out with male friends.
Your post made my day. You hit on so many points that it’s hard to answer.
My only suggestion is to pray for a wife if you are not already doing it. The Lord knows how to bring the right one to you.
I am 40 now and experienced the same observations in church youth groups and college in the ’98-’06 era. It was always worse in metro areas like Raleigh/Chapel Hill …. Affluent young women—in church, yes— for whom money seemed the background measure of all worth. They saw all guys through that filter.
What this environment is doing to young men and women is prolonging adolescence… not making one “ready for” children, home, marriage, etc. Your timeline description is spot-on. The society and the church both lend credence to the idea that one must do all these things before thinking about (fill in the blank).
Of course, this pushes those realizations into the mid/late 30s for most people. And despite the world’s rejection or ignorance of God’s sexual standards, this mentality also tells young Christians that they should endure 10-15 years of celibacy while achieving all the things that make them “ready for” …. Or maybe just adopt the pagan world’s behavior in the meantime (?? Many are muddled or silent on the issue). This is a setup for failure on both fronts.
I know so many people who are now in their mid-30s, with degrees (many Masters), unmarried, childless, non-homeowners, etc. who are no more ready or mature than me at 18. Sure, many will probably marry at some point and have their statistical 1.6 children. Maybe they’ll even be better off financially in some cases.
But they either won’t have, or will long-delay, the hard-to-experience-but-needful reality that marriage and family typically bring to young people and society: It forces you to live outside of yourself and die to your self-interest. All the inward, naval-gazing mental angst I experienced when younger just kind of went away and were forgotten as my problems became how to care for others.
If you don’t already. I recommend volunteer service at your church or an organization worthy of your time, effort, and interest. It will put you in “a higher orbit/plane,” you’ll meet different people, and attract positive attention. It may even open other doors to opportunities you hadn’t realized.
My tall, good looking 30 year old grandson has a Chinese girlfriend now...the blonde bimbos of years past were duds...good luck