Posted on 04/28/2024 8:24:19 PM PDT by joesbucks
Fox News anchor Maria Bartiromo on Sunday pressed House Judiciary Committee Chair Jim Jordan (R-Ohio) on the lack of headway in House Republicans’ investigations into President Biden and other political figures.
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And BTW, I appreciate the “Hawaii scenario”. There are a lot of things we wish for but don’t really care enough to fight for.
I don’t just wish for a country free from the Deep State’s control. I care enough to fight for it. They killed my husband. I can’t prove it legally, to see them in prison for it. But I can do everything in my power to bring them down. I would gladly give my life toward that end. (Obligatory notice: I am not suicidal and desperately want to live so that I can fight for my husband’s justice and for my family’s future!).
Voting for an R who disgusts me is no small task, in view of everything that needs to be done.
I hope and pray that you reach that point too, where you have hope enough to fight.
Ugh. Should be it IS A small task.
As my sister would say, “It was the least I could do, so I did it.”
Voting R is the least I can do so I will do it. I will also do much, much more than that if I can.
You are ignoring the Deep State, which always sides with the democrats anyway.
And that is the whole difference here. Until we realize that, we’re always going to get the same results.
What you’re describing is the idea that it’s insanity to try R’s when they always give the same results. And I agree with that - if you don’t also get rid of the Deep State. And that is what this battle is about. This is a battle to rid the US of the Deep State. The Deep State wants you to believe it’s anything but that, because if you saw that we have a REAL CHANCE to change the equation forever, you would take it seriously and actually battle against them.
It is the DEEP STATE that has buried everything that has come up implicating them in what is literally a coup against the Constitution of the USA. All of the stuff you mentioned has gone nowhere because the DEEP STATE is in control.
Read my other posts to see that we have a once-in-a-lifetime chance to actually get rid of the Deep State and save this country. It can’t happen if D’s are in control. The Deep State desperately wants America to believe that R’s should not have the majority, because their life depends on that.
I hope you will see that.
I think we’ve become adept at appreciating slinging accusations that have little or nothing behind them and being happy with that.
The Deep State has always been around, and getting rid of it is not possible. The deep state is what outsiders call it, but once inside, those members become part of the deep state, and people on the outside will continue complaining against the deep state,such as what you are doing.
The deep state is really big government that has become corrupt, and corruption comes from all sides. Power corrupts and absolute power corrupts absolutely.
Instead, take one side at a time, and go after them. The deep state is not specific enough. To get rid of the deep state, you have to get rid of politics, and that ain’t gonna happen.
You may be right.
The advantage of having a hearing is that important news can be forced into the public. But it’s important, then, that the news really is important or else you’ll become the boy who cried wolf.
I’d really like it if these committees started digging into the connected dots that Judge Cannon is uncovering. We need to reach a point where the general public realizes that not only are these witch-hunts against Trump, but they are coordinated by what is called the Department of JUSTICE. Which is actually treason. It is treason against the Constitution and against us, and if they are willing to do this so publicly, what else are they hiding against us?
Ultimately the committees need to gather evidence that will go to a non-corrupt DOJ or perhaps a military tribunal, I believe.
Glad to stand with you towards that end.
I don’t think you understand what the Deep State is. Deep State is separate from politics. Deep State is the mafia that uses its governmental powers to make sure that crime wins. Or more specifically, that the globalists (such as the WEF) who want to get rid of 90% of the world’s population can do whatever they darn well please while the people and anybody they get to represent them are hamstrung and either killed or imprisoned.
The Deep State takes politics out of the equation really, while putting politics on display as the scapegoat. They make it look like “politics” when Congress-critters ignore constituents, when in reality blackmail tapes are the story. Crimes by the Deep State.
They make it look like “politics” when Hillary, Bill, and Biden sell our military secrets to China and are never held accountable for treason.
They make it look like “politics” when our border is left totally unprotected, while James Clapper and John Brennan used “The Hammer” to spy on judges and justices to provide blackmail material whenever critical rulings come up, according to Dennis Montgomery - whose evidence against the Deep State was gathered by the FBI and then buried.
The Deep State is as specific as the actors who have done all this stuff. They are real people who can really be sent to Gitmo. And until we start doing that, it will keep on as always.
To get rid of the Deep State, we need to attack the Deep State. Not attack Jim Jordan and elect D’s to replace him.
"Welcome My Friends to the Show that Never Ends" - Emerson, Lake, & Palmer
Politics is policy-making.
Deep State is criminal methods used to try to get politicians to do whatever the globalist cabal wants.
The way to get rid of the Deep State is to send those who do the crimes in the Deep State sent to Gitmo. Soon enough after that, the rest will take the hint. As long as they are not held criminally liable for crimes they will keep doing them under the guise of “politics”.
We can argue the theories forever but the point is: the people doing crimes have to be sent to prison and/or Gitmo, without being allowed to hide behind the fact that they are within the government.
THAT is who we need to be going after. Only after the CIA stops holding politicians hostage will we ever get real policy-making as opposed to hostage negotiation.
But not by you, because you're a Democrat Party operative masquerading as a freeper, joesbucks.
Just a little heads-up here for ya, butterdezillion.
"freeper" joesbucks likes to attack conservative and Republican stalwarts - while remaining mum when it comes to Democrat Party icons.
He uses the Democrat nickname for Representative Jim Jordan - "Gym" Jordan.
I'm surprised that he managed to stop himself from posting that little smear on this thread - but he DID just get a week off FR from the Boss himself for attacking Trump, so he has to keep his nose a little clean for the time being...
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OK then the politics we need to do is to get R’s in the majority in both houses and get Trump into the White House.
If that’s what it takes to see government bureaucrats and “leaders” like Merrick Garland get thrown in the slammer for committing crimes then let’s do it!
Are you on board?
The way to get rid of the Deep State is to send those who do the crimes in the Deep State sent to Gitmo. Soon enough after that, the rest will take the hint. As long as they are not held criminally liable for crimes they will keep doing them under the guise of “politics”.
We can argue the theories forever but the point is: the people doing crimes have to be sent to prison and/or Gitmo, without being allowed to hide behind the fact that they are within the government.
THAT is who we need to be going after. Only after the CIA stops holding politicians hostage will we ever get real policy-making as opposed to hostage negotiation.
Exactly.
These people are attacking Jim Jordan because their little ploy to "dirty him up" with the Ohio State University abuse scandal failed, and burned one of the Deep State's blackmail cards.
Jordan is now very similar to The Cleanest Guy in Washington, President Trump. They don't seem to have anything on him.
If joesbucks has been doing the democrats’ bidding - whether deliberately or unintentionally - I hope he will realize that we need R’s in office in order to defeat the Deep State, and that is the war of our day.
I do know that the Deep State has its people to try to influence the public through various fora. Sometimes people get sucked into the mantras that appeal to a person’s emotions. As I said, about a week ago I was ready to rip Mike Flood a new one. My emotions were in control. But then I realized we have a good line-up of people and circumstances to actually take on the Deep State, and that is the most important. Flood might be compromised. Johnson and Trump might have worked out a back-handed way for the money to Ukraine to backfire. I don’t know everything that goes into the votes. But I do know that the D’s will keep the Deep State in power, and there are R’s who are willing to take it on, if we can just get/keep them in positions to do so. My brain is telling my emotions that I need to be smart and intentional.
And that’s what we can do for each other here. We can be a place to bitch and moan, but then pick ourselves up and do the actual fighting. We do need to be aware, though, of how our bitching and moaning here can impact real action. We can so discourage people that they give up. And/or we can have our griping here REPLACE the real fighting we should be doing.
I’ve mentioned that I need the legal eagles here to weigh in on some things that we the people and/or our state officials can actually do to impact the Deep State. I don’t know who those legal eagles are, but I’d really like it if we could brainstorm here in the hopes of actually doing something real and not just being content to bitch and moan. I think FR used to be a place of action. We need that more than ever now but I think the place is depressed because of troll flame wars and just general demoralization efforts. Do you have any idea how we could activate things here?
When I say getting R’s everywhere, I’m saying we need to get them into office everywhere. Is that what you’re agreeing needs to be done??
I would say we also need to make sure that criminals if the bureaucracy and the leadership of government need to be prosecuted just as if they were joe blow off the street.
Maybe we need to come up with a way where state prosecutors will agree to prosecute people within the federal government, since the government will always find itself not guilty if left to police themselves. Not sure how that fits with the Constitution but I’m just trying to brainstorm how we could get out of this mess. It is blatantly clear that DC cannot be trusted to police itself.
If you’ll go through kiryandil’s posting history, you’ll find they primarily tear down and disparage those who don’t align with their worldview and contribute very little if at all to discussions of the information presented or with new threads open for discussion.
Actually, we need to implement AI that adheres strictly to the constitution, and will not waver depending on politics or gender or race or ideals. Prosecute strictly on the violations against the constitution and bill-of-rights.
AI needs to be apolitical and secure and unbiased and truthful, and reliable.
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