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LEAKED: The document that could have ended the Ukraine war in April 2022
X/Twitter ^ | Apr 26, 2024 · | What the media hides.

Posted on 04/27/2024 4:32:21 PM PDT by Kazan

LEAKED

The document that could have ended the Ukraine war in April 2022

Zelensky scrapped it under UK/US orders, directly leading to the dеаth of hundreds of thousands of Ukrainians and vast ongoing territorial losses

17 pages

- military neutrality
- outlaw extreme nationalism
- cede Crimea and part of Donbass

- full Russian withdrawal
- no further attасks
- guarantor countries (🇨🇳🇺🇸🇫🇷🇬🇧🇹🇷) obliged to intervene within 3 days if Russia invades

Details about the new Donbass borders would be discussed directly by Putin and Zelensky

Document at link


TOPICS: News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: embarrassing; failedproxywar; fakenews; garbagekaren; garbagesource; killkillkillforpeace; landforpeace; mic; newsforumabuse; newskarenabuse; notanewsarticle; notanewssite; notnews; notyourproblemkaren; russia; ukraine; welfarewar; zeeperslovewar; zelenskyqs
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To: ansel12
You don’t recall all the news about the U.S. offering to evacuate the Ukrainian President and him rejecting it?

I certainly do not.

The idea the Biden regime wanted Zelensky to leave and Ukraine to surrender is contradicted by all those Ukrainian flags the Democrats were waving last Saturday after the foreign aid bill was passed.

The Russians came to the Biden regime with their security concerns in December of 2021 and the regime wouldn't even agree to talk BECAUSE it wanted a proxy war with Russia.

81 posted on 04/27/2024 8:10:16 PM PDT by Kazan
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To: Petrosius
You're lyng. Here is exactly what Bennet said:

The Grinding War in Ukraine Could Have Ended a Long Time Ago

According to Bennett, as early as the second Saturday of the war, or a little less than a week and a half into the war, both Ukrainian president Volodymyr Zelensky and Russian president Vladimir Putin made major concessions: Putin, by giving up on the goals of the “demilitarization” of Ukraine and its “denazification” — meaning, as Bennett interpreted it, regime change — and Zelensky by giving up on pursuing NATO membership.

Calling both leaders “pragmatic,” Bennett says that over the course of negotiations, he “was under the impression that both sides very much want[ed] a ceasefire” and gave the odds of any deal holding at 50-50. Over a “marathon of drafts,” he claims, seventeen draft agreements were prepared. But “they blocked it, and I thought [they were] wrong,” Bennett says, referring to the Western powers backing Ukraine.

“I have one claim,” Bennett told the interviewer. “I claim there was a good chance of reaching a ceasefire.” When the interviewer asks if he means “had they not curbed it,” he replies with a nod.

82 posted on 04/27/2024 8:15:29 PM PDT by Kazan
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To: Kazan

Who said anything about Ukraine surrendering?

The United States thought he should evacuate Kyiv for his personal safety and offered to do it.


83 posted on 04/27/2024 8:26:17 PM PDT by ansel12 ((NATO warrior under Reagan, and RA under Nixon, bemoaning the pro-Russians from Vietnam to Ukraine.))
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To: Kazan
From The Bulwark:
Here, there are some translation discrepancies: the English subtitles from Bennett’s translator say “they blocked it,” while the Russian subtitles and English auto-translate say “they broke off negotiations.”
Additionally, attributing "they" to refer to the Western powers is the author's editorializing, not the words of Bennett which are ambiguous. Further down in the Bulwark article:
Slightly earlier in the interview, at about 2 hours and 45 minutes, Bennett makes another significant statement: while the talks achieved some breakthroughs, with Putin agreeing to drop his demands for Ukraine’s demilitarization and “denazification”—which Bennett understood to mean the removal of Volodymyr Zelensky as president of Ukraine—and Zelensky agreeing to drop the goal of NATO membership, all of that juddered to a halt in early April once the reports came in of Russian atrocities in Bucha, the town near Kyiv that had been under Russian occupation in March. As Bennett succinctly puts it: “The Bucha massacre—once that happened I said, it’s over.” In other words, it wasn’t the United States or Western countries or NATO that ended any peace talks, such as they were. Rather, it was, first and foremost, Russia’s bloody escalation of the violence.
Bennett latter clarified on X/Twitter:
1. It’s unsure there was any deal to be made. At the time I gave it roughly a 50% chance. Americans felt chances were way lower. Hard to tell who was right.
In other words, there was no peace deal.

Finally there is the timeline that I have already provided that shows that Zelensky was open to a peace agreement after Boris Johnson's visit and that it was Putin who declared that the negotiations had reached a dead end because of what he attributed to the lie of the Bucha atrocities. But none of this will stop the pro-Russian side from spreading the lie that an agreement had been made only to be blocked by Boris Johnson.

84 posted on 04/27/2024 8:44:34 PM PDT by Petrosius
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To: Kazan
You do not remember this:

AP: Live updates: Zelenskyy declines US offer to evacuate Kyiv

85 posted on 04/27/2024 8:47:14 PM PDT by Petrosius
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To: Petrosius
They had the right to seek political redress within the context of the Ukrainian constitution, not independence.

And, when Ukrainians upset about the illegal coup tried a petition drive to address that, they were rounded AND burned to death in a union building in Odessa.

This is what your Ukrainian nationalists/neo-Nazis friends resorted to:

https://www.reuters.com/article/idUSBREA410TU/

More than 40 people were killed in Odessa on Friday, most caught in a building set on fire after pro-Russian activists and supporters of Ukrainian unity fought running battles across the southern port city.

86 posted on 04/27/2024 8:54:28 PM PDT by Kazan
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To: Petrosius
They had the right to seek political redress within the context of the Ukrainian constitution, not independence.

What a hypocrite you are. You wanted those in Donetsk, Lugansk and Crimea to follow the constitution but are fine and dandy with those the violated by fomenting a coup and driving Yanukovych out of office.

Those that are being persecuted by a government formed illegally ARE NO OBLIGATION to obey it or be a part of it.

You're proving just how unreasonable and ruthless those that fomented and supported the 2014 Maiden revolution were and are.

87 posted on 04/27/2024 9:01:18 PM PDT by Kazan
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To: Petrosius
We sure as hell didn't offer to evacuate him to avoid war or because they wanted a peaceful resolution.
88 posted on 04/27/2024 9:03:57 PM PDT by Kazan
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To: Petrosius
From The Bulwark

In other words, from a propaganda site run by Never Trumper Bill Kristol, who lies like he breathes.

89 posted on 04/27/2024 9:04:53 PM PDT by Kazan
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To: Petrosius
Here, there are some translation discrepancies: the English subtitles from Bennett’s translator say “they blocked it,” while the Russian subtitles and English auto-translate say “they broke off negotiations.”

That's absurd. It's mistranslation! 😂

90 posted on 04/27/2024 9:05:41 PM PDT by Kazan
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To: Kazan
...Zelensky scrapped it under UK/US orders...

Oh, BS.

He had other motivation(s); wake me when the facts are leaked.

91 posted on 04/27/2024 9:26:02 PM PDT by logi_cal869 (-cynicus the "concern troll" a/o 10/03/2018 /!i!! &@$%&*(@ -)
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To: jmacusa

“Let the Euros deal with it. It’s their back yard.”

The Euros are all in on bloody ethnic border wars. This is just another in a long tragic history.


92 posted on 04/27/2024 11:39:06 PM PDT by rxh4n1
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To: rxh4n1
Yup. And that's all this is. Another go round in an ancient Eastern European blood feud that has nothing to do with us. Two years ago nine out of ten Americans had never heard of Ukraine and couldn't have found the place on a map as big as a barn door and then all of a sudden it became the most important place on the planet. And we've been throwing billions at that grifting little nut bouncing weasel Zelensky and he's demanding more.
93 posted on 04/27/2024 11:51:06 PM PDT by jmacusa (Liberals. Too stupid to be idiots.)
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To: marktwain
In other words, surrender to Russia, with no real guarantee they will not break their promise to not invade, again, only now Ukraine would be completely helpless before them.

The same nonsense about the future.

You do not know the future and you cannot guarantee what the future will look like.

Your thinking always leads to war because the alternative is to take a risk on a future war by avoiding one today.

Well, I would rather live in a world where we avoid war today and if it might happen again, then we try to avoid it again.

People like you think that war is the only answer because "if". People like you got us into Vietnam.

You were wrong then and you are wrong now.

94 posted on 04/28/2024 1:29:14 AM PDT by Erik Latranyi (This is the end of the Republic....because we could not keep it.)
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To: Kazan

I find it amazing how many FReepers support the Obama/Biden foreign policy of overthrowing elected governments and agitating war.


95 posted on 04/28/2024 1:36:28 AM PDT by Erik Latranyi (This is the end of the Republic....because we could not keep it.)
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To: Kazan
Putin has no track record of attacking other countries

Wait a minute!

Telling that to the likes of the Biden clones is like pushing on a rope. It don't get through their little-bitty minds. Don't you know better than to confuse them with the truth?

96 posted on 04/28/2024 5:56:57 AM PDT by icclearly ( )
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To: Freest Republican
When he invaded in 2014 he was protecting his own security?

Try another example. That one doesn't work.

First, he didn't invade. The people of Crimea, who were primarily Ruskies, didn't want the same thing happening to them as happened in East Ukieland by the nazis. Bombings and constant military attacks on their civilians. Especially after the 2014 US/NATO-led color revolution/invasion of 2014.

What exactly would we do if China organized a revolution in Mexico and threatened us with missiles in Tijuana? I think I know. Same difference. You get another chance. We're waiting.

97 posted on 04/28/2024 6:14:48 AM PDT by icclearly ( )
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To: Kazan

https://amp.cnn.com/cnn/2022/02/26/europe/ukraine-zelensky-evacuation-intl

Zelensky refuses US offer to evacuate, saying ‘I need ammunition, not a ride’


98 posted on 04/28/2024 8:04:46 AM PDT by Brilliant
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To: Kazan

This same tripe repeated again and again, as if just continuing to repeat it makes it so.


99 posted on 04/28/2024 8:06:42 AM PDT by Wuli ( )
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To: Wuli
This same tripe repeated again and again, as if just continuing to repeat it makes it so.

If you're referring to Zeepers, the Biden regime, neocons, the Brits, EU and NATO, you'd be right.

100 posted on 04/28/2024 8:47:19 AM PDT by Kazan
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