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Russia's War Against Evangelicals
Time ^ | 4/20/24 | Peter Pomerantsev

Posted on 04/20/2024 8:00:21 PM PDT by Greetings_Puny_Humans

After they beat Azat Azatyan so bad blood came out of his ears; after they sent electric shocks up his genitals; after they wacked him with pipes and truncheons, the Russians began to interrogate him about his faith. “When did you become a Baptist? When did you become an American spy?” Azat tried to explain that in Ukraine there was freedom of religion, you could just choose your faith. But his torturers saw the world the same way as their predecessors at the KGB did: an American church is just a front for the American state.

Azat was dragged back to the makeshift cell in the occupied city of Berdiansk, in southern Ukraine, where he was held with six others in a cellar that had a bucket for a toilet and hard mattresses on the floor. The other inmates wondered how he could be religious when the punishments meted out to him were so much worse than to them. Azat answered he felt God was always with him. He prayed for the other inmates to be spared. When the torturers returned they left the others alone but told him to come with them: “This time we will kill you.”

Russia’s invasion of Ukraine is accompanied with a strategic effort to repress, control, and crush religious groups outside of the Kremlin controlled Moscow Patriarchate, the Russian Orthodox Church. There are over thirty cases of religious clergy killed and kidnapped. 109 known cases of interrogations, forced expulsions, imprisonments, arrests. 600 houses of worship destroyed. And these are just the confirmed numbers, with the real ones in information blackout of the occupied territories will much likely be higher.

Evangelicals are targeted by the Russians disproportionally, and Azat’s story is typical for Russia’s systemic persecution of Protestants in occupied Ukraine.

(Excerpt) Read more at time.com ...


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; Russia; Ukraine
KEYWORDS: baptists; christianity; evangelicals; greeniemaximus; gretaspunyhuman; persecution; protestantism; protestants; russianorthodox; statechurch; torture
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1 posted on 04/20/2024 8:00:21 PM PDT by Greetings_Puny_Humans
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To: Greetings_Puny_Humans

🤣🤣🤣. Repreobate globalits are concerned about Evanglicals.


2 posted on 04/20/2024 8:03:15 PM PDT by cowboyusa (YESHUA IS KING OF AMERICA, AND HE WILL HAVE NO OTHER GODS BEFORE HIM!)
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To: Greetings_Puny_Humans

And some American Evangelicals consider the Orthodox Church to be a front for the KGB...


3 posted on 04/20/2024 8:03:30 PM PDT by lightman (I am a binary Trinitarian. Deal with it!)
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To: lightman

Which is accurate. Archbishop Kirill has a KGB codename and worked under orders at the World Council of Churches to spread Liberation Theology to Latin America.


4 posted on 04/20/2024 8:07:00 PM PDT by Greetings_Puny_Humans (I mostly come out at night... mostly.)
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To: lightman

Oh, you said “Orthodox,” not “Russian Orthodox.” The latter definitely is under the control of Russia’s FSB. And only 7% of Russians even bother attending church once a month.


5 posted on 04/20/2024 8:08:38 PM PDT by Greetings_Puny_Humans (I mostly come out at night... mostly.)
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To: Greetings_Puny_Humans
The US meanwhile is at war with Christianity.

So which represents more evil in your opinion?

6 posted on 04/20/2024 8:08:54 PM PDT by Robert DeLong
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To: Greetings_Puny_Humans

There’s a lot to this the USSR had a state Orthodox Church and a State Baptist Church whose leaders were KGB.

I personally protested their presence in the USA with the late Dr. Carl McIntire I was a groupie of his at one time in my life.

As for Russia today the government looks out for foreign interference in all quarters no doubt.

Regardless of the government many Orthodox Christians do not see Protestant Christians as normal.

Solzhenitsyn incorporated some of this into his writings.


7 posted on 04/20/2024 8:11:33 PM PDT by Nextrush (FREEDOM IS EVERYBODY'S BUSINESS-REMEMBER REV. NIEMOLLER)
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To: cowboyusa

No, but facts are facts. An American who defected all the way to the Russian side (probably had an FR handle) from Texas was recently raped and decapitated by Russian troops, despite holding valid military ID and citizenship.

There are countless examples of brutal rapes, torture and murder, all Russian on Russian, targeting people for any reason or no reason at all, or for being Baptist, or Protestant in general, going back years prior to any of the invasions.

This is just how they operate.


8 posted on 04/20/2024 8:12:07 PM PDT by Greetings_Puny_Humans (I mostly come out at night... mostly.)
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To: Greetings_Puny_Humans
BY PETER POMERANTSEVAPRIL 20, 2024 6:00 AM EDT

Pomerantsev's new book is How to Win an Information War: The Propagandist Who Outwitted Hitler. He is also the author of This is Not Propaganda: Adventures in the War Against Reality. He is a Senior Fellow at SNF Agora Institute, Johns Hopkins University.

Too bad he didn't talk about the Covid propaganda. Why is that? Some propaganda good, but other propaganda bad?

9 posted on 04/20/2024 8:13:12 PM PDT by Robert DeLong
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To: cowboyusa

yeah. my reaction exactly.


10 posted on 04/20/2024 8:17:10 PM PDT by Recovering_Democrat
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To: Greetings_Puny_Humans
$61 billion in US tax dollars has already been laundered so you can stop with the propaganda.
11 posted on 04/20/2024 8:19:36 PM PDT by Kazan
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To: Greetings_Puny_Humans

If the US/CIA media says so...


12 posted on 04/20/2024 8:20:35 PM PDT by Karl Spooner
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To: cowboyusa

Fixed it: Reprobate, PEDOPHILE, HOMO, WOMAN HATING, LYING, globalist are concerned about Evanglicals? Yeah, right! Sure they are.


13 posted on 04/20/2024 8:22:07 PM PDT by Fai Mao (Starve the Beast and steal its food.)
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To: cowboyusa

They got Ukraine the $$$.

But now they need boots on the ground so they don’t collapse.

They are sending “advisors”, but meanwhile, they need to dial the “Russian anti-Protestant Monsters” propaganda level up to 11, to activate the evangelicals for “biblical war”.

When do we get to the babies thrown out of incubators ? And babies on bayonets ?


14 posted on 04/20/2024 8:27:17 PM PDT by Reverend Wright ( Everything touched by progressives, dies !)
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To: cowboyusa

America has a long way to go to be as Christian as Russia. Can’t blame them for wanting nothing to do with sub-Christian cults that have done so much damage here.


15 posted on 04/20/2024 8:27:42 PM PDT by Romulus
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To: lightman

WOW! Maybe you are correct!

1. Putin Runs The Russian State—And The Russian Church Too
Forbes
https://www.forbes.com/2009/02/20/putin-solzhenitsyn-kirill-russia-opinions-contributors_orthodox_church.html?sh=3781a8cd3bf9

2. I found this at Wiki:

Patriarch Kirill introduced significant changes in the administrative structure of the Church. On 31 March 2009, the Holy Synod, at its first meeting under the chairmanship of the newly elected Patriarch Kirill, reformed the DECR, forming new synodal institutions, which were entrusted with certain areas of activity previously dealt with by the DECR.

The Department for Church-Society Relations [ru], independent from the DECR, was created; this department was responsible for “the implementation of relations with legislative bodies, political parties, professional and creative unions, and other civil society institutions in the canonical territory of the Moscow Patriarchate.”

Dioceses, representative offices [ru], metochions, monasteries and stavropegic parishes far abroad, which were previously under the authority of the DECR, were directly subordinated to the Patriarch of Moscow of All Russia; to manage them, the Moscow Patriarchate’s Secretariat for Institutions Abroad was created. The Synodal Information Department [ru] was created.

IMPORTATION OF CIGARETTES

Journalists of the newspapers Kommersant and Moskovskij Komsomolets accused Kirill of profiteering and abuse of the privilege of duty-free importation of cigarettes granted to the church in the mid-1990s and dubbed him “Tobacco Metropolitan”.
The Department for External Church Relations was alleged to have acted as the largest supplier of foreign cigarettes in Russia. The profits of this operation allegedly under Kirill’s direction were estimated to have totaled $1.5 billion by sociologist Nikolai Mitrokhin in 2004, and at $4 billion by The Moscow News in 2006.

However, Nathaniel Davis said that “There is no evidence that Metropolitan Kirill has actually EMBEZZLED funds. What is more likely is that profits from the importation of tobacco and cigarettes have been used for urgent, pressing Church expenses.”

The duty-free importation of cigarettes ended in 1997.


16 posted on 04/20/2024 8:28:49 PM PDT by UMCRevMom@aol.com (Pray for God 's intervention to stop Putin's invasion of Ukraine 🇺🇸)
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To: Greetings_Puny_Humans

Russia has always been schizophrenic on religion.

See https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Church_of_Jesus_Christ_of_Latter-day_Saints_in_Russia#:~:text=The%20LDS%20Church%20also%20participated,surrounding%20Russia%27s%20invasion%20of%20Ukraine.

for some other history.


17 posted on 04/20/2024 8:29:18 PM PDT by ASOC (This space for rent)
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To: Robert DeLong

Ask me again when your fantasy of some purple haired, deputized wokester sodomizes you and cuts off your head for being a member of the SBC under orders of Kamala finally comes true.


18 posted on 04/20/2024 8:30:54 PM PDT by Greetings_Puny_Humans (I mostly come out at night... mostly.)
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To: Greetings_Puny_Humans

From Time magazine? next we will post stuff for serious consideration from the View and MSNBC


19 posted on 04/20/2024 8:32:20 PM PDT by Glad2bnuts (“And how we burned in the camps later, thinking: We should have set up ambushes...paraphrased)
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To: Glad2bnuts

I forgot how retarded a lot of this forum has become. We went from “the media is biased” to just randomly claiming everything is made up if we don’t like it. Well, not “we,” just the freaks and creeps on this platform.


20 posted on 04/20/2024 8:37:12 PM PDT by Greetings_Puny_Humans (I mostly come out at night... mostly.)
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