Posted on 03/26/2024 6:41:42 AM PDT by george76
Officials insist it's only allowed 'when students are not present'..
A school district in Texas is being taken to court because of its decision to ban an employee from praying.
It is the American Center for Law and Justice that has gone to federal court in Houston on behalf of Staci Barber, an employee of the Katy Independent School District.
Defendants are the district and Bryan Rounds, principal of Cardiff junior high.
The federal court filing explains that the district "violated, and continues to violate, her rights to religious expression by prohibiting her from praying when students might be present, even if that prayer occurs off the clock."
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The ACLJ explained this case involves a teacher who wanted to engage in prayer outside the school building before the school day begins..
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"This year she had gathered with two friends and fellow teachers to pray at the school flagpole. The school principal called these teachers into his office. He told them that they could not pray at the pole or in the presence of students because if they did so, students may see and join in. He told them that it was against the law for them to pray publicly where students could see them and then pointed them to a school policy that prohibited teachers from praying in the presence of students."
However, the ACLJ explained the facts, that the Constitution "protects the rights of religious employees to pray, even publicly; they do not somehow lose their constitutional rights just by being government employees.
(Excerpt) Read more at wnd.com ...
Liberals believe the 1st Amendment forbids freedom of religion.
Mark Davis does it on his radio show. Now if he were the WH press secretary I’d eat it up.
“(Principal) told them that they could not pray at the pole or in the presence of students because if they did so, students may see and join in.”
And that is one thing that no school wants, a praying student.
Where do they get these fools to run schools?
"This year she had gathered with two friends and fellow teachers to pray at the school flagpole. The school principal called these teachers into his office.
He told them that they could not pray at the pole or in the presence of students because if they did so, students may see and join in.
He told them that it was against the law for them to pray publicly where students could see them and then pointed them to a school policy that prohibited teachers from praying in the presence of students."
A lot of taxpayer money is wasted on "officials" and "experts with expertise" who are possessed with antagonism for, and imagine that their "policies" supersede, our Constitution and founding principals of Original Intent, Enumeration of Powers, and LIMITED GOVERNMENT.
But pornography in the libraray is OK.
What a jack-wagon.
That’s the beauty of the sign of the cross.
Had they put down prayer mats and faced east, they would have been celebrated. Some religions are more equal than others.
EC
[[Officials insist it’s only allowed ‘when students are not present]]
Nope, not true! Sc has been all over this many times-
[[and then pointed them to a school policy that prohibited teachers from praying in the presence of students.”]]
Unconstitutional school policy!
“C. Overview of Governing Constitutional Principles
The First Amendment to the U.S. Constitution both prevents the government from establishing religion and protects religious exercise and religious expression from unwarranted government interference and discrimination. A public school and its officials may not prescribe prayers to be recited by students or by school authorities. However, nothing in the First Amendment converts the public schools into religion-free zones, or requires students, teachers, or other school officials to leave their private religious expression behind at the schoolhouse door. The line between government-sponsored and privately initiated religious expression is vital to a proper understanding of what the Religion and Free Speech Clauses of the First Amendment prohibit and protect. Although a government may not promote or favor religion or coerce the consciences of students, schools also may not discriminate against private religious expression by students, teachers, or other employees. Schools must also maintain neutrality among faiths rather than preferring one or more religions over others”
https://www.mbm-law.net/insights/prayer-and-religious-expression-in-public-school/
To forbid any expressions of dependence upon God (any), and or gratitude to Him by any gov. officials, effectively examples/teaches/inculcates atheism, as it conveys that the government in no way is dependent upon the supernatural, nor appreciative to deity.
Parents who abstain from the same, even at the dinner table, effectively do that same. But which is consistent with the principle expressed in,
...we have no government armed with power capable of contending with human passions unbridled by morality and religion. Avarice, ambition, revenge, or gallantry, would break the strongest cords of our Constitution as a whale goes through a net. Our Constitution was made only for a moral and religious people. It is wholly inadequate to the government of any other. (From a letter Adams wrote on 11 October 1798 to the officers of the First Brigade, Third Division, of the Massachusetts Militia) on October 11, 1798)
More, by the grace of God.
And the religion Adams had in mind was not Islam.
Yet to believe that an exceedingly vast, systematically ordered universe, exquisitely finely tuned for life with profound intricate complexity and corporeal diversity, can be all a result of purely natural processes requires much faith, more so than that the universe logically testifies to design, requiring a First Cause (at the least), that of a powerful being of supreme intelligence being behind the existence of energy and organization of matter.
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And yet they teach kids in depth about islam to the point of having them recite the Shahada in class.
Total BS.
What a liar.
Key words of disputation would be "promote" and "private." Since the people involved were not flying a LGBTQAI+++ flag in support of a feelings-based (born that way) "religion," but expressing faith (born again that way) then the powers-that-be would argue that this was a promotion of forbidden religion, versus expressing atheism by excluding any dependence upon and gratitude to a higher power than the government (did that) itself. Which is effectively the official state religion, and expressed in excluding the origin of the universe as being due to any supernatural power.
Note that since the IRS granted religious tax-exempt status to a "resolutely non-theistic" fraternal organization (the Satanic Temple, basically a preforming arts and political org.), "which does not even endorse supernatural (or 'supernormal') explanations...". then not only must every US state gov. allow them religious rights and protections, but it opens the door for all sorts of secular org. claiming religious. Which means that neither the IRS or SCOTUS ruled consistent with what the Founders had in mind a religion.
In 2016 the Satanic Temple asked Scottsdale, Arizona to open a city council meeting with a prayer that ended with "Hail Satan.” - https://theconversation.com/what-the-satanic-temple-is-and-why-its-opening-a-debate-about-religion-131283
Are there any schools that allow the middle eastern death cult members to interrupt lessons, kneel on their prayer rugs, and pray?
I’ll bet there are.
I would argue that that school’s policy against open prayer is acceptable if it includes prohibition against ANY LBGT discussions in school as well. If the issue is “keeping one’s ‘beliefs’ to themself” that must include all LBGT beliefs as well.
Where is the “hell breaking loose?”
Just boilerplate harassment of Christians. Happens daily.
Click bait.
The government takes this VERY seriously. I was almost fired a few times and placed on some list over twenty-five years ago just telling a patient about the Bible.
Got to go to re education camp where they told me about tolerance, religious differences and racism for two weeks. I'm now reformed and ...and of course not working for the government anymore.
And that would be... bad?
Someone help me out here.
I thought the reason that we had to get rid of prayer in school was because kids were being forced to pray. (That never happened, you can not force someone to pray. You may, by way of threat force them to mouth words but praying is a level beyond that).
Now teachers can not pray on their own time on school grounds because the students may, of their own accord, walk over and join in.
What am I missing?
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