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1 posted on 03/01/2024 6:21:04 AM PST by SJackson
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2 posted on 03/01/2024 6:21:51 AM PST by SJackson (In a war of ideas it is people who get killed, Stanislaw Jerzy Lec)
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Thanks for posting this and bringing attention to a foundational figure in international scholarship.


3 posted on 03/01/2024 6:30:21 AM PST by AndyJackson
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The Qur’an’s devotion of so much verbiage to inculcating hatred against non-Muslims is unique in world scriptures.

The bottom line of the world's great religions is "Leave other people alone."

...and then there's Islam...................

4 posted on 03/01/2024 6:32:26 AM PST by Red Badger (Homeless veterans camp in the streets while illegals are put up in 5 Star hotels....................)
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To: SJackson

his followers, who, after his death, did their admittedly flawed and incomplete best to gather their memories together into a written document.


Oral traditions were woven into tapestries, and 200 years later gatherer into a written form (Syriac). Later translated into Arabic. Many mistranslations: like the Syriac word for ‘white fig” ( a valuable commodity in those days ) became ‘virgins’.

The article mentions the koran is the Islamic Bible, but fails to mention it needs 4 other holy books.

To understand what is being said you must read the Hadiths and Sunnahs which chronicle the life and sayings of Muhammad, these are Talibari, Muslim, Isaq and Bukhari; Hadiths are Mohammed’s word to his followers, the Sunnahs are the history of Muhammad and his motto (sic) was “Kill, kill, kill” ...

Or you could safely go with just killing, converting, or collecting money from everybody who is not a muslim, or not in your sect, or not in following the particular version preached by your imam; see Victor Mordicai: “Islam operates in this way: Kill the Jews on Saturday, the Christians on Sunday, the Buddists and Hindus are pagans - so kill them first, then everybody else. Next we kill each other.”


One of the sayings of Mohammad is that Paradise can hold 72,000 jihadis, no more.


“In respect to their treatment by scholars, the Bible and the Qur’an are not comparable.”

Also not comparable are Jesus and Mohammad, the mass murder ( he personally beheaded 40 Jewish captives after one battle ).


“Love is very much not the book’s theme”
and has only one (1) mention.


Dr. Bill “Warner compares canonical Muslim scripture with Mein Kampf and discovers that there is more antisemitic material in the former”

also see Prophet of Doom, Entire Book.pdf
http://prophetofdoom.net/pdf/Prophet_of_Doom_Entire_Book.pdf

Understanding The Koran by Bill Warner from New English Review, June 2008
https://www.politicalislam.com/understanding-the-koran/


The main differences: Christianity is about love, life and creation. The koran is about death, murder and absolute obedience.


6 posted on 03/01/2024 7:09:19 AM PST by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now its your turn)
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Wonderful article contrasting the Bible with the Qua’ran.


7 posted on 03/01/2024 7:25:55 AM PST by Tell It Right (1st Thessalonians 5:21 -- Put everything to the test, hold fast to that which is true.)
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BTTT


8 posted on 03/01/2024 7:31:09 AM PST by nopardons
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I have learned a ton about Islam and the Quran this morning. As Jesus said, this kind only comes out by prayer and fasting. May our Lord continue to miraculously show Himself among the Muslim people.


9 posted on 03/01/2024 7:32:39 AM PST by chajin ("There is no other name under heaven given among people by which we must be saved." Acts 4:12)
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Very interesting.

I was a student at Berkeley while he was teaching there but never heard of him--I would have enjoyed hearing one of his lectures. Albert B. Lord was a visiting professor there one quarter and I did hear him lecture. I had never before encountered the idea that Parry's wife might have killed him.

10 posted on 03/01/2024 9:34:18 AM PST by Verginius Rufus
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Long. Intriguing. Thank you.

The writer’s infatuation with his professor is distracting, but must be waded through first.


11 posted on 03/01/2024 9:35:13 AM PST by Robert A Cook PE (Method, motive, and opportunity: No morals, shear madness and hatred by those who cheat.)
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I recently read “Did Muhammad Exist?” by Robert Spencer which touched on many of the points in the article. A fascinating read and it’s hard to believe that people will die for that incoherent nonsense.

One of Islam’s incentives to get men to wage war on non-Muslims is the ‘72 virgin reward in Paradise. In the Koran the reward is 72 “whites” and virgin is never mentioned. A ‘white’ at that time was a rare delicacy, a white raisin. So that had to be conveniently interpreted as ‘virgin’.


13 posted on 03/01/2024 9:57:45 AM PST by KamperKen (u)
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bump


20 posted on 03/01/2024 4:55:22 PM PST by Albion Wilde (Either ‘the Deep State destroys America, or we destroy the Deep State.’ --Donald Trump)
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The Qur’an’s themes are not comparable to themes in the Bible. Allah is very much not a father. Love is very much not the book’s theme. There is no Good Samaritan story informing Muslims that even non-Muslims are their neighbors and worthy of equal treatment. Rather, the Qur’an informs Muslims that they are the best of created beings, and non-Muslims are the worst of all creatures.
22 posted on 03/04/2024 9:15:37 PM PST by lightman (I am a binary Trinitarian. Deal with it!)
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Excellent article. But the book costs $44 even in kindle format!!


24 posted on 03/05/2024 5:31:55 AM PST by Cronos (I identify as an ambulance, my pronounces are wee/woo)
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