Posted on 02/27/2024 7:13:23 AM PST by SeekAndFind
On February 16, 2024, a judge in New York State imposed fines totaling just over $360 million on former president Donald J. Trump, The Trump Organization, and several related Trump companies and trusts in the civil case brought by the New York attorney general. President Trump’s sons Donald Trump, Jr. and Eric Trump were fined just over $4 million each. The court imposed additional sanctions, including injunctions against former president Trump; Donald Trump, Jr.; and Eric Trump from serving as officers or directors in New York corporations for specified numbers of years, among other sanctions.
The media reporting on the court’s decision has been massive since the decision was rendered. However, little or no reporting focused on the constitutionality of the fines under the Eighth Amendment to the United States Constitution. President Trump and his co-defendants all have substantial 8th Amendment “excessive fine” challenges to raise. In fact, a review of the facts and applicable law reveal that this decision is simply more election interference.
Background about the Case
The fines stem from a civil suit filed by New York attorney general Letitia James in 2022, claiming that former president Trump and his companies used falsely inflated asset valuations and misleading financial statements in dealings with lenders. The suit alleges various different claims, chief among them the New York State Executive Law Section 63(12) “fraudulent or illegal acts” claims.
Importantly, the Trump case involved no victims. The court could not order any lender to be paid back or made whole, because the lenders not only were paid back, but all made money on the loans made to Trump.
Since the case did not present any victims, the New York judge ordered what is known as disgorgement — that is, to give up “profits.
(Excerpt) Read more at americanthinker.com ...
Good, I hope Donald prevails.
but to the democrats there is no Constitution
Arguing the 8’th is fine If it comes down to having ro do that, BUT, it is the fsct that the whole stinking trial was corrupt, and he shouldn’t have to pay a dime because he did nothing wrong. The trial and verdict should be thrown out and the judge and prosecutors severely punished for abusing their authority and positions!
They have always looked at it as a living document that changes with the times.
"When I use a word," Humpty Dumpty said in rather a scornful tone, "it means just what I choose it to mean — neither more nor less."
I think Trump has a strong case under the No State shall make a Law impairing the Obligation of Contracts clause of the Constitution as well as the 8th Amendment.
Both apply directly to the Erogon Case
In light that there were no claims of harm by anyone, ANY fine would be excessive. This a purely political witch hunt and this type of seizure amounts to theft by the government. And even worse, the judge said that he had to pay a half billion dollars just to appeal! This has to be one of the worst miscarriages of justices with no victim ever.
The judge and prosecutors ought to be disbarred.
And changed to whom it is applied depending whose ox is getting gored.
"Our Constitution was made only for a moral and religious people. It is wholly inadequate to the government of any other."--John Adams
I agree- their actions were so aggreguous that even some of the more objective and honest democrats understand how corrupt the judgement is
objective and honest democrats “
You can find them riding unicorns
Per the late and great Justice Anthony Scalia, "The only thing wrong with a living constitution is that will destroy The Constitution!"
Yes. James and her creepy commie puppet judge trampled all over Trumps right to mount a defense, free speech, due process and excessive punishment. This puts the appeal on SCOTUS docket. I hope that James and the judge get disbarred for this travesty of justice.
Well,i shoulda said “somewhat more,objective and honest”
Some democrats are coming outpretty strongly agaisnt the judge and his corrupt ruling- likely fearing that it will damage ny and affect their businesses in the long run-
cruel and unusual punishment
Note to New York Times and Washington Post Bimbos: The liberal 'judge' is stupid.
Bkmk
We live in Post-Constitutional America, so that doesn’t matter anymore.
There is a linked article within Daniel Street's article you posted, that is a very good read as well, and I suggest people read that one, too:
LINK: Judge Engoron’s Inflation Of Trump’s ‘Ill-Gotten Gains’ Is The Real Financial Fraud
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