Posted on 02/26/2024 9:02:55 AM PST by janetjanet998
Several NATO and EU members are "considering sending troops to Ukraine" on a "bilateral basis
Slovakia's PM Robert Fico added, "I cannot say for what purpose and what they should be doing there," after making the claims.
This thing may yet go nuclear.
They will go into extreme western Ukraine to free up Ukrainian troops there so they can be deployed to the front line
IMO (Been saying that since last summer as the “next step”)
For some reason, a rogue missile will be sent in their direction, perhaps killing a few NATO and EU troops in the process, think Gulf of Tonkin only this time with missiles that actually land and kill people.
“I will limit myself to say that these theses (in preparation for the Paris meeting) imply a number of NATO and EU member states are considering that they will send their troops to Ukraine on a bilateral basis,” Fico told a televised briefing following a meeting of Slovakia’s security council.
Troops that cannot make up for a lack of artillery shells.
Ukraine needs a supply of 8,000 155mm artillery shells per week.
The “typical” average weight of a 155mm artillery shell, is 100 lbs.
US troops by October.
nah, even Putin - incredibly stupid as he is - isn’t THAT stupid
These idiots really want wwiii.
The European nations can do whatever they want. Not one US soldier’s foot on the ground in Ukraine.
To little, too late. The definition of Stupidity: 1) NATO 2) Collective West.
It is obvious today that the Ukies should have began negotiations a long time ago, instead the brain dead Ukies put their trust in a brain dead, senile old man.
Fact is this war ends when Vlad says so, Unconditionally, to stop the western war cheerleaders from ever pulling a stupid stunt like this ever again.
End NATI before they drag us into this war.
I don’t see a problem here. The NATO folks will probably just be advising the Ukrainian military. But of course the NATO folks will need a secure base. So add force protection, including a combat air patrol.
Oh, wait. I do see a problem here, a big problem. From the movie “The Bedford Incident”:
(A US destroyer is tracking a Soviet sub. The destroyer has just armed an anti-submarine rocket.)
Commodore Schrepke: This is insane!
Captain Finlander: Now don’t worry, Commodore. The Bedford’ll never fire first. But if he fires one, I’ll fire one.
Ensign Ralston: [launching the rocket] Fire One!
“This thing may yet go nuclear.”
And it may go away. These troops, as they are called, could be there to assist in the brokerage of a surrender. There are many points and issues that will be needed to be settled before the smoke is allowed to clear. A lot of them that were what started the engagement like natural resourses, the means to keep them operational, ports for trade, and how the Russian government is going to delve out all they are going to have to share with the Ukrainians. If the locals go on strike because they feel they are not getting a fair shake, and everything shuts down, what good was it for Russia to go in there?
The cooperation of the two countries to work these problems, many I didn’t mention, is going to be important for the success of the region as time goes on. In some cases, like in Korea, armistice can take longer than the war itself.
wy69
Would the Russians find such a move to be provocative? And respond unpleasantly to it?
Tell me why again, that the entire Western world cannot outproduce and supply artillery shells and field pieces in EXCESS of the Russians? Assuming we really want to and aren’t just blathering.
US Army awards $1.5B to boost global production of artillery rounds - October 26, 2023
EXCERPT:
U.S. Army said it awarded contracts to nine companies in the U.S., Canada, India, and Poland to boost global production of 155mm artillery rounds . . . the service finalized a flurry of contracts that “resourced each major component, material or required production process to maintain momentum for the goal of 80,000 projectiles per month by the fourth quarter of fiscal 2025.”
Ukraine to make shells with US firms as it seeks to develop defence sector - December 7, 2023
EXCERPT:
Dec 7 (Reuters) - Kyiv has agreed with two American firms to jointly manufacture vital 155mm artillery shells in Ukraine . . .
"We have agreements with two leading American companies to jointly produce, in Ukraine, 155-calibre ammunition," Oleksandr Kamyshin, minister for strategic industries, said in televised comments.
But he noted that Ukraine had never produced such shells and it would be "a minimum of two years, a maximum of three" before production could begin.
Mesquite 635 Industrial Park [just 12 minutes from downtown Dallas at the crossroads of Interstate 635 and U.S. 80]:
DMN: General Dynamics Selects Mesquite Industrial Park for New Artillery Casings Plant - April 25, 2023
EXCERPT:
“The manufacturing facility will effectively produce 20,000 units per month” of artillery casings only.
Mesquite [City Council] approves new General Dynamics plant to make artillery casings - May 10, 2023
Note: The Mesquite artillery shell casing manufacturing plant is expected to open in June, 2024; but some of the funding might be hung up in the Congress. And another maybe: that same funding pool includes funds for the Lima, Ohio heavy armor tank plant.
YouTube - 2 videos re 155mm status
Inside the US Factory Making Ukraine’s Most Important Ammo - August 6, 2023
Why the 155mm Shell Is One of the World’s Most Wanted Objects Now - January 24, 2024
Just speculating - this could take the form of SAM systems, which most NATO members would like to hold on to on a permanent basis. The effect would be to backstop Ukrainian air defense of, say, Kiev and Odessa and the Danube corridor.
If they go in and make themselves legitimate troop representatives of a NATO nation, we are under no obligation to defend them.
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