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Nobel Prize Winner: 'Hamas is playing the ultimatum game'
Arutz Sheva ^ | 25/2/24

Posted on 02/25/2024 5:59:00 AM PST by Eleutheria5

Nobel Prize winner Robert Aumann commented on the issue of the hostages at the Arutz Sheva - Israel National News Jerusalem Conference.

“Consider the ultimatum game,” Professor Aumann began, referencing a known economics problem. “Two players will get ten thousand shekels if they can agree on how to divide it. One suggests splitting it evenly. The other The other insists on taking at least nine thousand shekels. The first player will realize that even though such a demand is irrational, he will still profit by agreeing, and so the rational first player will agree to the terms set by the irrational second player. This is the current situation between Hamas and Israel.”

“Hamas, even though they are the irrational party, will make out with more. I hope that they do not actually do so, but they are acting in an irrational manner to get more, and we are acting in a rational manner.”

“Moshe Dayan said something similar after the Six Day War, that we need to act irrationally to achieve maximum results.”

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TOPICS: Extended News; Gaza; Hamas; Israel; War; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: aumann; economist; gaza; hamas; israel; negotiations; nobelwinner; rationality; robertaumann; waronterror
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If Israel were being truly rational, they would not negotiate.
1 posted on 02/25/2024 5:59:00 AM PST by Eleutheria5
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To: Eleutheria5

The rational thing is to destroy this enemy or you will have more October 7ths. The Arabs have needed more than a military humiliation, they need an ass kicking that breaks their hearts in an existential way. Like Japan and Germany got from us.


2 posted on 02/25/2024 6:05:55 AM PST by DesertRhino (16 Star Wars, 2020 The Empire Strikes Back, 2024... RETURN OF THE JEDI)
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To: Eleutheria5

If Israel were being truly rational, they would not negotiate.

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If Israel were being truly rational, they would have ended the game in less than a week taking 100%.


3 posted on 02/25/2024 6:08:08 AM PST by Responsibility2nd (A truth that’s told with bad intent, Beats all the lies you can invent ~ Wm. Blake)
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To: Eleutheria5

If Israel annihilates the irrational negotiator, they get all 10,000 shekels.


4 posted on 02/25/2024 6:08:34 AM PST by Stosh
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To: Eleutheria5

TPTB will not allow a crash before Nov. 5th.


5 posted on 02/25/2024 6:08:43 AM PST by HandBasketHell
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To: DesertRhino

Exactly. If Hamas is left even partially intact, they will claim it as a victory, and start reasserting themselves, and building up to do it all over again, and the Gazans will still be scared into doing their bidding. The hostages may or not be released in one piece. Sinwar and his whole f@#$ing organization must be destroyed.


6 posted on 02/25/2024 6:09:27 AM PST by Eleutheria5 (Every Goliath has his David. Child in need of a CGM system. https://gofund.me/6452dbf1. )
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To: Stosh

That assumes the game ends there. It doesn’t.


7 posted on 02/25/2024 6:15:08 AM PST by EEGator
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To: Eleutheria5
Consider the ultimatum game

This is a finite game and this was disposed of long ago. Life for a civilization is an infinite game. Unless you are anahiliated, say like the Mongols did to some offending tribes, you always have a next turn. We defeated Germany and Japan totally, and yet they are still playing prominently upon the international stage.

But Hamas has shown through these kinds of antics that they are a player we can no longer live with because they are bent, not on the best for the Palestinains, but total annihilation of the other side, with using instruments provided by us the long suffering productive US citizenry.

8 posted on 02/25/2024 6:16:16 AM PST by AndyJackson
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To: Eleutheria5

Hamas is playing the game spelled out in Rules For Radicals.


9 posted on 02/25/2024 6:16:48 AM PST by Gay State Conservative (Proudly Clinging To My Guns And My Religion)
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10 posted on 02/25/2024 6:25:35 AM PST by SJackson (In a war of ideas it is people who get killed, Stanislaw Jerzy Lec)
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To: Eleutheria5

I wrote about two months ago:

Perhaps Israel should divide up the Gaza strip and then try to buy the hostages freedom off of small groups at say 10,000 Euros or dollars a hostage.

The hostage holders might also be given the options of jail time with a 60% sentence reduction or two hours to escape without tracking (and also a 40% possible sentence reduction if they give their DNA).

This would have to be compared to the current policy, which probably is to send the hostages out and surrender or to take your chances in combat with the IDF.

Now many people may rightly object to handing $10,000 to evil people, but one has to consider that it may be the only way to save the life of a human being.


11 posted on 02/25/2024 6:44:54 AM PST by Brian Griffin
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To: Eleutheria5

It should be borne in mind that HAMAS may not hold all the hostages itself.


12 posted on 02/25/2024 6:49:30 AM PST by Brian Griffin
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To: Eleutheria5

Holding hostages is a war crime.

Therefore, HAMAS might let independent groups continue to hold the hostages.


13 posted on 02/25/2024 6:53:55 AM PST by Brian Griffin
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To: Eleutheria5

The atrocities were the result of hate fomented by the press and educational systems.

The journalists and teachers of Gaza need to face the same justice Joseph Goebbels might have faced.


14 posted on 02/25/2024 7:00:49 AM PST by Brian Griffin
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To: Brian Griffin

From Israel to the sea
Gaza will cease to be


15 posted on 02/25/2024 7:37:10 AM PST by null and void (I identify as a conspiracy theorist. My personal pronouns are told/you/so.)
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To: Eleutheria5

Israel should assume all the hostages have been murdered, and continue to rub out any vestige of ham ass today, tomorrow, and forever.


16 posted on 02/25/2024 8:07:25 AM PST by Uncle Miltie (Objective: Permanently break the will of the population to ever wage war again.)
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To: Eleutheria5
Herman Kahn in his seminal book, On Thermonuclear War, said that the way to win a chicken race it to be seen getting into the car noticeable drunk and throw the steering wheel out the window. Same deal with terrorists. Kill them, every one of them, to discourage the others. Giving them anything of value for hostage taking only encourages hostage taking.
17 posted on 02/25/2024 9:11:52 AM PST by Lonesome in Massachussets (Perdicaris alive or Raisuli dead!)
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To: SJackson

Just in case anyone has any doubts that Hamas committed atrocities on Oct.7, here is video (watch at own risk, very grpahic) taken by the Hamas butchers on their phones. I could only watch less than a minute.

https://rumble.com/v3svp3a-israels-911.html
Israel’s 9/11


18 posted on 02/25/2024 9:19:27 AM PST by little jeremiah (Nothing Can Stop What Is Coming)
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To: Uncle Miltie

The Israelis used to have a thing called the Sampson tactic. If an Israeli was taken hostage, they would flood the area with tanks and troops and kick in every door and level every building in the area until the hostage was returned. Make taking hostages too costly to risk.


19 posted on 02/25/2024 9:20:58 AM PST by Lonesome in Massachussets (Perdicaris alive or Raisuli dead!)
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To: Gay State Conservative

Hamas’ stated goal is to kill every single Jew. Trained up from childhood. They are like rabid animals, just need to be put down.


20 posted on 02/25/2024 9:21:08 AM PST by little jeremiah (Nothing Can Stop What Is Coming)
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