Biden and 25th Amendment [VANITY]

FreeRepublic ^ | February 8, 2024 | Reno89519

[Texan4Life]

GOP Calls to Invoke 25th Amendment After Special Counsel Casts Doubt on Biden’s Mental Acuity: ‘This Man Has the Nuclear Codes’

While highlighting evidence of America’s oldest ever president “willfully” mishandling classified documents, Special Counsel Hur’s report details Biden’s significant cognitive decline — perhaps more politically damning than his handling of classified materials.

The report, released Thursday, concludes that prosecution is unlikely due to the challenges of proving willful intent beyond a reasonable doubt and Biden’s sympathetic public image.

In response, Republican members are urging the cabinet to invoke the 25th Amendment — which addresses presidential succession and disability procedures — or face impeachment, while questioning how Democrats in “good conscience” can tell Americans he is mentally competent enough to continue being Commander-in-Chief.

“For the safety of our nation, Joe Biden must resign,” declared Congresswoman Mary Miller (R-IL). “He could not remember basic facts about his life. He is not competent to remain as Commander-in-Chief & every day that he remains, he puts America at risk.”

“If he won’t resign, the Cabinet must invoke the 25th Amendment,” she added.

https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2024/02/08/gop-calls-invoke-25th-amendment-special-council-casts-doubt-biden-mental-acuity/

[Jim Noble]

You have to realize that while under ordinary conditions both parties would cooperate on a XXV removal, this situation is part of a plan that has been effective since January 2021 and is still working.

Biden as “President” is just an actor. He’s not making any decisions, he does what he’s told to do by persons unknown.

Republicans and Democrats, especially in the Senate, have collaborated on Project Biden from .the beginning and continue to do so for reasons of their own.

So, because nothing has really changed, removal is unlikely. He won’t be allowed to run. Nothing is as it seems.

[Political Junkie Too]

for the GOP house to try to invoke 25th amendment

The House has nothing to do with the 25th amendment. Only the Vice President can invoke the 25th amendment.

-PJ

[kabar]

Section 4

Whenever the Vice President and a majority of either the principal officers of the executive departments or of such other body as Congress may by law provide, transmit to the President pro tempore of the Senate and the Speaker of the House of Representatives their written declaration that the President is unable to discharge the powers and duties of his office, the Vice President shall immediately assume the powers and duties of the office as Acting President.

Thereafter, when the President transmits to the President pro tempore of the Senate and the Speaker of the House of Representatives his written declaration that no inability exists, he shall resume the powers and duties of his office unless the Vice President and a majority of either the principal officers of the executive department or of such other body as Congress may by law provide, transmit within four days to the President pro tempore of the Senate and the Speaker of the House of Representatives their written declaration that the President is unable to discharge the powers and duties of his office. Thereupon Congress shall decide the issue, assembling within forty-eight hours for that purpose if not in session. If the Congress, within twenty-one days after receipt of the latter written declaration, or, if Congress is not in session, within twenty-one days after Congress is required to assemble, determines by two-thirds vote of both Houses that the President is unable to discharge the powers and duties of his office, the Vice President shall continue to discharge the same as Acting President; otherwise, the President shall resume the powers and duties of his office.

[shotgun]

It would be a win/win situation for democrats. First time the 25th A was used, the first woman president, and the first woman of color president. They could lock up the minority vote for another 50 years.

[Texan4Life]

If you were raising the 25th amendment related to Trump but are not doing it related to Biden, you aren’t a journalist, a pundit, or a partisan. You are a whore.

https://fxtwitter.com/EWErickson/status/1755960693239447831

Biden is either mentally capable to stand trial & should be charged for mishandling classified documents as Vice President OR he is unfit to serve as President.

There is no middle ground.

https://fxtwitter.com/RepTenney/status/1755802335324836167

Joe Biden isn’t capable to stand trial for all of the classified documents he stole after leaving office as a Senator and VP, yet he’s capable of carrying around the nuclear football?

Joe Biden is unfit to serve as POTUS!

Two solutions: 25th Amendment or impeachment.

https://fxtwitter.com/RepMTG/status/1755773991220822347

It’s time to brush off the 25th Amendment. Joe Biden is completely mentally UNFIT for president, even his own DOJ says so! We’ve known this for a long time, but now Biden’s health has become a national security issue. REMOVE!

https://fxtwitter.com/RonnyJacksonTX/status/1755950523750969438

On Friday’s “Wake Up America,” Judge Andrew Napolitano explains what it would take for Joe Biden to be removed as President under the 25th Amendment.

https://fxtwitter.com/NEWSMAX/status/1755954018738684231

[Texan4Life]

The DOJ won’t prosecute because they are worried that a jury will expose Biden for what he is…suffering some cognitive issue that is at this point, dangerous. For safety and national security reasons…how is he fit to be president?

https://x.com/RepLuna/status/1755784692391899208

[Political Junkie Too]

Congress has not created any other bodies to act in place of the Cabinet.

Still, only the President can self-invoke the 25th amendment, and only the VP can invoke the 25th amendment against the President.

-PJ

[cgbg]

If it gets to that the Republicans could actually do something smart for once in their lives....

and refuse to remove Biden.

He should stand as a living monument to the insanity of the Democratic Party.

Let them deal with their mess.

[kabar]

Thereupon Congress shall decide the issue, assembling within forty-eight hours for that purpose if not in session. If the Congress, within twenty-one days after receipt of the latter written declaration, or, if Congress is not in session, within twenty-one days after Congress is required to assemble, determines by two-thirds vote of both Houses that the President is unable to discharge the powers and duties of his office, the Vice President shall continue to discharge the same as Acting President; otherwise, the President shall resume the powers and duties of his office.

Congress has a role to play. The Rep controlled House should call in Hur and investigate fully the mental health of the President. The public has a right to know.

[Political Junkie Too]

That role is a third-pass role that only happens after the VP invokes the 25th amendment, the President declares himself competent, and then the VP invokes the 25th amendment again.

Sure, the Congress has a role as the backstop of last resort, but a lot of other things have to happen before it gets to that point.

Why don't you take a look at the initial post that I replied to:

for the GOP house to try to invoke 25th amendment

Do you agree with me that Congress cannot invoke the 25th amendment?

-PJ

[JohnBovenmyer]

>The House has nothing to do with the 25th amendment.

Not quite true. True, under the 25th's current rules the House has nothing to do with triggering the process the 25th provides. But the House does have a roll at the potential end of the process. During a presidentially contested removal both the House and the Senate need to vote by 2/3 to finally remove the President. And the House has a potential pro-active role under the 25th. The default trigger for 25th §4 is the VP plus "a majority of either the principal officers of the executive departments." Hence the 15 member subset of cabinet heads I'd posted on another thread and linked here in #40. But it next states "or of such other body as Congress may by law provide." So Congress can change who triggers this, but only prospectively through action of House and Senate and either acquiescence of a competent POTUS or through veto override. So that's apt to occur only prospectively.

However, because the 25th gives Congress the power to change this it offers a justification for Congressional hearings. The 25th was added because of concerns over non-lethal presidential inability. Both temporarily and co-operatively, as had occurred after Ike's heart attack pre-ratification and have occurred during anesthesia for several presidents. 25th §3 has so been tested several times and seems to work ok. But the greater concern leading to the 25th was significant inability by an uncooperative president, as had notably occurred during the ends of Wilson's and FDR's terms. Given the potential power to revise the rules it can be argued that Congress has a duty to oversee how well the current rules are working. Given an official report suggesting there may be a problem the current 25th trigger isn't catching, hearings to either confirm the system is actually working or to suggest improvements are indicated. Testimony from the 16 who currently can trigger the process and some sort of Congressional evaluation, independent of them, of the current President would make sense.

[Political Junkie Too]

Yes, I was short in my initial post at 3:40am responding the post that Congress "invoke" the 25th amendment.

I should have said that Congress has no role in invoking the 25th amendment, which is what I said in my second sentence.

Congress only gets involved if the President resists the VP invoking the 25th.

-PJ

[hanamizu]

“...refuse to remove Biden.”

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It takes 2/3rds vote of both Houses to strip Biden of Presidential powers. Neither party has the power alone to do this. If it has gotten to the point where every dem in both houses will vote to remove, then I imagine that there will be a quiet meeting to get him to resign rather than being publicly humiliated.

If Republicans are seen to be blocking his removal, then it will be played that the Republicans are favoring politics over ‘what is best for the nation’. Let the dems force him out.

That makes Harris, a truly unlikeable woman, as either President or Acting President. The dems will be stuck with her as their candidate—imagine the uproar if they try to replace her. I honestly don’t think that she will draw that many extra dem or independent votes—few will be enthusiastic over her despite the whole ‘1st woman President’ b.s.

[cgbg]

I am in favor of cold Sun Tzu tactics.

That means the Republicans should do the secret polling to figure out the best chance to win the White House—with either Biden or Kamala as the opposition candidate.

Whoever is the weaker candidate is the one they want.

My gut (which I admit may not be supported by those internal polls) is that Biden is the weaker candidate—and therefore the Republicans should calmly and coldly keep him in there.

I know I am dreaming—those loudmouths never shut up when they are supposed to...

[kabar]

I agree Congress can’t initiate the activation of the 25th Amendment, but they sure as Hell have a key role to play, including using hearings and the bully pulpit to get the Administration to act.

Congress represents the American people.