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The New NBC News Poll Is a Train Wreck for Joe Biden
NRO ^ | February 4, 2024 | RICH LOWRY

Posted on 02/04/2024 3:20:31 PM PST by lasereye

Biden is losing to Trump by five points in the new NBC poll. Biden is getting smoked in almost every category, including having the necessary mental and physical health to be president, not, one assumes, an incidental matter when you are seeking to be president again.

These numbers represent such a debacle, I understand why so many smart people assume that Democrats will switch out Biden — because he represents an insane bet for their party. I don’t think that’s going to happen, though. They’ve got to, as I mentioned the other day, hope the economy keeps improving and that they can disqualify Trump, including through the lawfare campaign against him.

Lawfare is the bright spot for Biden in this poll, by the way, since he pulls ahead in the hypothetical matchup if Trump is convicted. But we don’t know how voters will really react if that conviction comes, especially if it is in the ridiculous Alvin Bragg case that looks like it’s going to go first and easily could be the only one to go to trial this year.


TOPICS: Extended News; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: California; US: South Carolina
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Over the years the NBC poll has been one of the least accurate iirc. Since media polls are manipulated, it could be that this and other polls are making things look worse for Biden than they really are, in order to get him out of the race. But that theory is looking less plausible with each passing day. For one thing nobody's challenging him other than Phillips, and he has zero backers among Democrat office holders.

The recent Quinnipiac poll is incompatible with this one, but for the moment it seems like an outlier.

1 posted on 02/04/2024 3:20:31 PM PST by lasereye
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To: lasereye

Polls do not mater - its how many ballots can be counted multiple times to win.


2 posted on 02/04/2024 3:21:38 PM PST by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now its your turn)
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To: lasereye

Joe Biden is not going to drop out because it is the nature of totalitarians to rule until their last breath and to hell with the people they rule.


3 posted on 02/04/2024 3:23:09 PM PST by wildcard_redneck (He who sacrifices freedom for security deserves neither.)
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To: lasereye

all polls like this do is create a “bogus ballot volume target”for the UniParty

the gotta know how many ballots the need to “create”; there’s many different ways to do so and all those pumps have to be primed right now


4 posted on 02/04/2024 3:23:58 PM PST by mo ("If you understand, no explanation is needed; if you don't understand, no explanation is possible)
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To: lasereye

The “economy” is NOT improving, every month they revise the posted numbers downward. It is one BIG lie which you will find out shortly.


5 posted on 02/04/2024 3:24:40 PM PST by wetgundog
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To: wildcard_redneck

I am also starting to believe Joe will try to stay on the ticket in November while refusing to debate


6 posted on 02/04/2024 3:24:48 PM PST by desertsolitaire
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To: lasereye; All

I think the numbers are made up in order to show momentum. Trump shouldn’t even mention the polls. He should just continue to talk border and the effects it has on the working class. That and maybe talk about the wars.


7 posted on 02/04/2024 3:28:12 PM PST by wiseprince (Me)
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To: lasereye

“Help us, Michael-Wan Kenobi; you’re our only hope.”


8 posted on 02/04/2024 3:30:23 PM PST by Jeff Chandler (THE ISSUE IS NEVER THE ISSUE. THE REVOLUTION IS THE ISSUE.)
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To: wildcard_redneck
Nikita Khrushchev felt the same way. The Politburo felt otherwise. We have a Politburo which is stronger than the Biden crime family.
9 posted on 02/04/2024 3:32:06 PM PST by Vigilanteman (The politicized state destroys aspects of civil society, human kindness and private charity.)
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To: lasereye

The Powers That Be want him out. Thus these reports.


10 posted on 02/04/2024 3:33:10 PM PST by Blueflag
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To: wetgundog
The “economy” is NOT improving, every month they revise the posted numbers downward. It is one BIG lie which you will find out shortly.

Beyond this -- and, I would postulate, more importantly -- the reality of the economic situation is, politically-speaking, less important than the public perception of the economy. And that isn't going to improve between now and November.

11 posted on 02/04/2024 3:34:14 PM PST by DSH
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To: wetgundog

The rich are doing very well under Biden.

The Democrats have always been the Party of the Rich.


12 posted on 02/04/2024 3:36:27 PM PST by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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To: lasereye

The democrat nominee this August will be Hillary Clinton.

She will graciously allow herself to be the savior.

There will be wailing weeping screams of gratitude in the aisles.


13 posted on 02/04/2024 3:44:06 PM PST by odawg
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To: lasereye

Not to worry Joek. Once the Taylor Swift endorsement comes in you’re golden. /s
FJB


14 posted on 02/04/2024 3:47:16 PM PST by PGalt (Past Peak Civilization?)
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To: PIF
"Polls do not mater - it's how many ballots can be counted multiple times to win."

They're getting their fake name, birthdate, and address lists together in every state, to make sure to tip the scale so that President Trump isn't elected again, like he was in 2020.

15 posted on 02/04/2024 3:55:53 PM PST by mass55th (“Courage is being scared to death, but saddling up anyway.” ― John Wayne)
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To: PIF

Just wait until old Joe Gets us in a ground war in Yemen. The Marines are itching to create the 51st state.


16 posted on 02/04/2024 3:59:09 PM PST by DownInFlames (p)
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To: wildcard_redneck

Apparently Kamala is planning a run for President in 2028, on the theory that it is possible to make a silk purse out of a sow’s ear.


17 posted on 02/04/2024 4:17:18 PM PST by Verginius Rufus
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To: AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Arthur Wildfire! March; Berosus; Bockscar; BraveMan; cardinal4; ...
Satire:
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18 posted on 02/04/2024 4:27:50 PM PST by SunkenCiv (Putin should skip ahead to where he kills himself in the bunker.)
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To: lasereye

HELP WANTED:
Mules to stuff ballot drop boxes.
Good pay, no experience needed. Migrants especially should apply.
Work hours: flexible, but job must be done in the dead of night. Apply at any Democrat Party office.


19 posted on 02/04/2024 4:30:09 PM PST by Deo volente ("When we see the image of a baby in the womb, we glimpse the majesty of God's creation." Pres. Trump)
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To: mass55th

I remain unconvinced that the puppet-masters will change the horse’s rear end in the middle of the stream.

;-)


20 posted on 02/04/2024 4:30:43 PM PST by cgbg ("Our democracy" = Their Kleptocracy)
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