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Property Tax Anger is Growing Across America
Newsweak ^ | Jan 29, 2024 | Aliss Higham

Posted on 01/29/2024 10:30:57 PM PST by where's_the_Outrage?

Americans are growing increasingly frustrated at property tax levels, a new poll has shown.

According to a new UChicago Harris/AP-NORC poll, around two thirds of Americans surveyed believe their property tax rate is too high. The poll was conducted in 2023, between December 14 to 18, with 1,024 participants across all 50 states and the District of Columbia.

The survey found 69 percent of adults in the U.S. believe their property tax rates were "unfair", with 27 percent saying they were "about right", and 3 percent claiming they are taxed too little.

Across the country, property taxes, also known as real-estate taxes, are imposed at a local level, with homeowners in each state paying different amounts. Property taxes go back into local communities, helping to pay for infrastructure improvements, public services and schooling. According to retail lender Rocket Mortgage, the highest rates are applied in New Jersey, Illinois and New Hampshire, whereas the lowest taxes are paid in Hawaii, Alabama and Colorado.......

Of all the taxes involved in the survey—property, state sales, and federal income taxes—property taxes are viewed as the biggest burden on Americans' wallets. According to the poll, 67 percent think federal income taxes are too high, along with 62 percent saying they thought state sales taxes cost too much.

(Excerpt) Read more at newsweek.com ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Government; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: confiscation; housing; privateproperty; property; propertytax; realestate; realty; taxes
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I think property taxes should be illegal as it allows the government to confiscate your property, making it so you keep your property only at the benevolence of the government.

Worse, non property owners are allowed to vote to increase your taxes being lulled to believing there is no impact on them because they don't own property.

1 posted on 01/29/2024 10:30:57 PM PST by where's_the_Outrage?
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To: where's_the_Outrage?

It’s essentially a wealth tax.

Who wants any of that?


2 posted on 01/29/2024 10:32:41 PM PST by Paladin2
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To: where's_the_Outrage?

There are also lots of exemptions given to big corporations in order to lure jobs.


3 posted on 01/29/2024 10:33:56 PM PST by rmichaelj (Ave Maria gratia plena, Dominus tecum.)
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To: where's_the_Outrage?
Proposition 13 significantly reduced property taxes in California. While I was in College a liberal friend starting moaning about all the awful cuts in funding it would cause.

'It saved my Mom and me from losing our House'. That shut him real quick.

4 posted on 01/29/2024 10:37:16 PM PST by Nateman (If the Pedo Profit Mad Moe (pig pee upon him!) was not the Antichrist then he comes in second.)
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To: where's_the_Outrage?

Wait til their homes get re-assessed, like mine just was. Up Nearly 50%, in 3 years


5 posted on 01/29/2024 10:40:17 PM PST by 11th_VA (Celebrate Climate Change !!!)
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To: where's_the_Outrage?; All
The government confiscates your property whether by home, apartment, land or income. I have been saying for years that the term “tax” is just another way to say, “confiscation of your labor.”

Unfortunately, too few people think about that. Let’s say you work five hours to earn $100, and the government takes $20.

The government just confiscated one hour of your life.

6 posted on 01/29/2024 10:42:36 PM PST by Cobra64 (Common sense isn’t common anymore)
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Yep, Prop. 13...one of the last vestiges of sanity left in California!

Thanks again Howard Jarvis...RIP!

My total prop tax % even with multiple school district bonds measures: 1.176270%
($7k homeowners value exemption also).

https://www.hjta.org


7 posted on 01/29/2024 10:44:36 PM PST by Drago
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Sales Tax is basically insane. The first lecture in every basic economics class should emphasize the rule: If you want more of something subside it, if you want less of something tax it. Therefore, raising a sales tax will serve to decrease sales, hurting small businesses which can least afford it and possibly drive them out of business.


8 posted on 01/29/2024 10:47:21 PM PST by immadashell (Save Innocent Lives: Ban Gun Free Zones)
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To: where's_the_Outrage?

I am not a property owner, but I absolutely refuse to vote
for any new taxation or fees.

Sadly, I’m in the small minority of people who have adopted
that policy.


9 posted on 01/29/2024 10:50:57 PM PST by DoughtyOne (I pledge allegiance to the flag of the USofA & to the Constitutional REPUBLIC for which it stands.)
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To: where's_the_Outrage?

They will force us out of our forever home of over 30 yrs...


10 posted on 01/29/2024 10:55:06 PM PST by cherry
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To: immadashell
Sales Tax is basically insane.

Nothing is certain but death and taxes

So what tax is not insane? At least with sales tax every pays, which means everyone has skin in the game.

Unfortunately society needs taxes, so IMHO if you benefit from a tax program, you should pay taxes.
11 posted on 01/29/2024 10:55:43 PM PST by where's_the_Outrage? (Drain the Swamp. Build the Wall.)
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To: DoughtyOne

I am totally against targeted taxes where the government comes up with a scheme to “fully” fund an existing program with a new tax (e.g., Hunting License wildlife fund, school lunch program, etc). So the tax is passed but the money that used to directed to that program is now a slush fund.


12 posted on 01/29/2024 11:00:24 PM PST by where's_the_Outrage? (Drain the Swamp. Build the Wall.)
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You mean people are getting tired of paying through the ass and being raped by equalization boards and getting crap back? Imagine that.

This country can't even get basic services right. Everywhere you turn in our area be it state. city, town, county or federal looks like a slum. The county here can't even straighten road signs, the state can't keep guard rails repaired or much of anything. The roads are just one huge continuous speed bump.

Yeah, people should be tired of property taxes. They aren't getting any return on them.

13 posted on 01/29/2024 11:04:28 PM PST by Sequoyah101 (Procrastination is just a form of defiance)
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To: Drago
Unfortunately, New York State is up there in property and school taxes.
I left the state five years ago because of the high taxes imposed on me. When I left there I was paying nearly $10,000 and year in combine land and school taxes. Sufficient to say each of my children are adults and living on their own.
14 posted on 01/29/2024 11:04:42 PM PST by Doc91678 (Doc91678)
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To: Cobra64

Yes. It is human nature to work (hunt and gather) and to provide your family an abode (home, condo, apartment, cabin, hut, cave). It is immoral to tax either of those. It is immoral to tax basic human necessities.


15 posted on 01/29/2024 11:07:23 PM PST by monkeyshine (live and let live is dead)
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To: where's_the_Outrage?

How do you think the WEF will force use into Soviet-style dreary apartment highrises in crowded cities?

Property taxes.


16 posted on 01/29/2024 11:09:28 PM PST by Lazamataz (Laz 2005: "First, we beat the Soviet Union. Then we became them.")
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To me sales taxes are egregious. When I was a kid nearly 70 years ago sales tax in our town was 3%. We had nice parks, roads, good police and fire protection, I thought really good schools. All for 3% of sales.

Now the sales tax on top of state income tax and property taxes is 10% or more. Three times what it was back in the day. Not only is it three times higher the price of everything that is taxed is much higher. The real increase in sales tax after inflation is 3X what it was. For that 3 fold increase in cost to us every single service is worse or not at all.

17 posted on 01/29/2024 11:10:28 PM PST by Sequoyah101 (Procrastination is just a form of defiance)
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To: Sequoyah101

I believe this is fallout from “targeted taxes”. We loved our parks, roads, etc. So the government then said they have budget shortfalls and cannot continue supporting these tax funded programs. People then naively vote extra taxes to keeps these existing programs. And then the new tax funds the parks and the money that was allocated to the park becomes a slush fund for more graft and other projects.

Even worse, the government “borrowed” from the park for another project creating the budget shortfall.


18 posted on 01/29/2024 11:22:32 PM PST by where's_the_Outrage? (Drain the Swamp. Build the Wall.)
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To: where's_the_Outrage?

The Republicans in Congress should try to send to the states a constitutional amendment that would cap middle class property taxation, such as:

Property tax on any residential property of less than 2799 square feet of finished space shall be no higher the 2019 dollar amount on the property, or for a newer or since resold property what a similar property in the same area would have been taxed at for 2019 if it lacked owner specific tax breaks, increased by 3% per calendar year since 2019 and by any percentage increase to its finished space.

Fighting for such a property tax cap now in Congress would add the electors of several deep blue states to Trump’s total and make Congress turn deep red come November.

Even devoted Democratic voters do not want to get taxed out of their homes.

How would schools get funded if property taxes are capped to 2019 scale levels? By higher sales taxation and by services taxation that is used in Florida in lieu of having a state income tax.

I don’t want to pay for schooling of the kids of the people pampering the well-to-do. The well-to-do need to pay for such schooling via service taxation.


19 posted on 01/29/2024 11:22:43 PM PST by Brian Griffin
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“Of all the taxes involved in the survey—property, state sales, and federal income taxes—property taxes are viewed as the biggest burden on Americans’ wallets. “

I’d guess that for most families the *actual* annual dollar burden is, in descending order:
1. federal income tax (including payroll tax for Social Security)
2. State sales tax
3. Property tax

For those who aren’t self-employed, federal income taxes are withheld from paychecks. Because the typical wage earner never sees the money, he doesn’t think about how much he’s actually shelling out to the feds.

State sales tax is a death by a thousand cuts. Even in high sales tax states like California paying 8 or 9% on $100 worth of stuff at Target or Walmart is only $8 or $9 a pop and people barely notice. It’s only on big ticket items like vehicles that the taxpayer is likely to really feel the hit of sales tax.

Because property tax must be shelled out with big lump-sum checks once or twice a years, more people feel the hit in a way that they don’t with other taxes that are actually more burdensome in the long run.


20 posted on 01/29/2024 11:31:03 PM PST by irishjuggler
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