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To: cowboyusa

Haha first you yell at me to get a life, then you reply to me. With a bunch if very wrong things. Kirk might be a Midwestern farm boy but with that German name he’s definitely not 100% American. The Federation is the UN, just look at the flag. The Klingons and Romulans are way more complicated than that. There’s a lot of historical Japanese attitudes in the Romulans, plus of course the Roman empire. Klingons are actually really hardcore capitalists. The Federation are not always the good guys, they want to be for sure, but Kirk violates regs way too often for them to be always right. The format is western but it is NOT a cold war drama. It’s biggest message is that we can move past all of that.


78 posted on 01/27/2024 4:50:28 PM PST by discostu (like a dog being shown a card trick)
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To: discostu

I’m Ukranian, Polish and Germany Jewish, and I’m 100 percent American. I don’t appreciate it. You are a wackjob.


80 posted on 01/27/2024 5:00:09 PM PST by cowboyusa (YESHUA IS KING OF AMERICA! DEATH TO MARXISM AND LEFTISM! AMERICA, COWBOY UP!)
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To: discostu; cowboyusa
Kirk might be a Midwestern farm boy but with that German name he’s definitely not 100% American.

"James Kirk"? That sounds Scottish, but even if he were German-American he'd still be 100% American.

The Federation is the UN, just look at the flag.

Sure, but Kirk was definitely American. US liberals back then assumed that the UN was on our side and we were the natural leaders. Of course, the earth being unified, Russians and Chinese would be on the same side as Kirk, but Roddenbury could us aspects of them to create the foreign rivals of the Federation.

The format is western but it is NOT a cold war drama. It’s biggest message is that we can move past all of that.

Well, the earth does, and that's part of the message, but Roddenbury was too much a part of his time to be wholly unaffected by Cold War thinking.

81 posted on 01/27/2024 5:35:31 PM PST by x
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To: discostu
Lol, "Kirk" is Scottish for "church."

Maybe you are thinking of Cpt. Kirche?

84 posted on 01/27/2024 6:17:18 PM PST by Trailerpark Badass (“There should be a whole lot more going on than throwing bleach,” said one woman)
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