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A Democratic Republic can only survive if the representatives and citizenry are moral and ethical
American Thinker ^ | January 12, 2024 | Uldis Sprogis

Posted on 01/12/2024 2:38:38 PM PST by E. Pluribus Unum

Article II, Section 4 in the constitution states this:

The President, Vice President, and all civil officers of the United States, shall be removed from office on impeachment for, and conviction of, treason, bribery, or other high crimes and misdemeanors.

Currently in vogue for the Democrats is the phrase “no one is above the law.” In the Constitution, “high crimes” and “misdemeanors” aren’t defined so both are subject to subjective ethical value judgements. What if some laws are unjust, then should no one be above the unjust laws?

As can be noted, a sense of morality or ethics is necessary to judge whether any particular misconduct is a high crime and misdemeanor, or whether a law is truly unjust and need not be obeyed. If an elected representative lies, steals, commits adultery, or murders, then the organization is doomed to fail—unless it’s a criminal organization. Similarly, if most citizens begin to lie, steal, commit adultery, and murder, then the society becomes utter insecure chaos.

Another thing to note is that no law is really absolute, and each law has a real world exception(s). You may get away with murder if you are proven to be mentally ill or insane, and you may be pardoned for stealing if you and your family are starving and no charity, government agency, or good Samaritan will help. There are plenty of other examples which are too numerous to list with their own justification for breaking the law in some cases.

Could we reach a reasonable consensus on what constitutes a high crime and misdemeanor? Starting a nuclear war, treason, bribery, a president murdering a political rival, and a first term president succeeding in rigging an election to win a second term come to my mind when it comes...

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Government; Politics/Elections
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1 posted on 01/12/2024 2:38:38 PM PST by E. Pluribus Unum
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We aren’t a “democratic” republic.


2 posted on 01/12/2024 2:41:23 PM PST by Olog-hai ("No Republican, no matter how liberal, is going to woo a Democratic vote." -- Ronald Reagan, 1960)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

They aren’t, they have not bee and so it isn’t.


3 posted on 01/12/2024 2:42:19 PM PST by Sequoyah101 (Procrastination is just a form of defiance)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

John Adams said, “Our constitution was made only for a moral and religious people. It is wholly inadequate to the government of any other.”

For our constitutional Republic-—not a mob frenzy controlled “democracy.”


4 posted on 01/12/2024 2:45:18 PM PST by frank ballenger (There's a battle outside and it's raging. It'll soon shake your windows and rattle your walls.)
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To: Olog-hai
We aren’t a “democratic” republic.

"Democratic" means the people get to vote as opposed to a monarchy or a dictatorship.

People shouldn't be so pedantic. It's annoying.

5 posted on 01/12/2024 2:45:27 PM PST by Drew68 (Ron DeSantis for President. A conservative who fights and wins..)
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To: frank ballenger
not a mob frenzy controlled “democracy.”

Have you ever voted for a governor? How about a senator? Congratulations. You participated in a mob frenzy controlled democracy.

6 posted on 01/12/2024 2:46:41 PM PST by Drew68 (Ron DeSantis for President. A conservative who fights and wins..)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum
"A Democratic Republic can only survive if the representatives and citizenry are moral and ethical

..... Personally .... I do not wan't a "Democratic Republic" to survive under any Circumstances ..... I want the "Constitution Federal Republic" to be reinstated as the founders of our Nation indended us to be.

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7 posted on 01/12/2024 2:47:16 PM PST by R_Kangel ("A nation of sheep will beget a nation ruled by wolves")
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To: E. Pluribus Unum
“... if the representatives and citizenry are moral and ethical...”

‘Well-it’s imperative to retain and respect tradition/s. If you fiddle with society at the sacrifice of tradition/s, then restraint on the worst of human nature is removed and people become beasts.’ Burke

8 posted on 01/12/2024 2:52:40 PM PST by SMARTY ("A lie which is half a truth is ever the blackest of lies." Tennyson)
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To: Olog-hai; thinden; bitt; RitaOK

Democracy is incompatible with the Rule of Law.
Laws must be either created or nullified for democracy to be sustained.
Democracy - the rule of the majority as the appointed leaders determine.

Any Laws that stand in the way of the majority’s [constantly changing] will must be changed, ignored and nullified.
Beside, being among the appointed leaders is a gig you don’t want to lose (keep you head about you!).


9 posted on 01/12/2024 2:53:28 PM PST by Cletus.D.Yokel (When I say "We" I speak of, -not for-, "We the People")
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To: Taxman

ping


10 posted on 01/12/2024 2:54:25 PM PST by Taxman ((SAVE AMERICA! VOTE REPUBLICAN IN 2024! SAVE AMERICA!))
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

Trump needs to schedule a town hall at a studio near the Harvard campus with Jewish students. All should all wear their yarmulke. He’d have to be careful with his democrat criticism and what the left really really thinks of them. He could then ask them why 75% of them still vote for the left. Bring up history, policy, and antisemite statements.

Every Jew in the country would be watching.

Townhalls-my problem is the ‘moderators-don’t need any. Trump can run the meeting with one assistant calling out whose turn it is to ask the next question. The start of the get together can start with a 10 minute speech.


11 posted on 01/12/2024 2:54:42 PM PST by DIRTYSECRET
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To: Olog-hai

We ain’t moral and ethical, that’s for sure.


12 posted on 01/12/2024 2:54:44 PM PST by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum
If we want a Democratic Republic, we'll have to ban the right to vote for women.

If you're a woman, you will always vote to expand the government in return for more "services" and "protection".

13 posted on 01/12/2024 2:58:34 PM PST by MinorityRepublican
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To: Drew68

Through no actions of my own the voters of my state of Michigan produced a victory for Jennifer Granholm and Gretchen Whitmer as governors and Proposal 3 making abortion rights fully guaranteed in the Michigan Constitution.


14 posted on 01/12/2024 3:03:05 PM PST by frank ballenger (There's a battle outside and it's raging. It'll soon shake your windows and rattle your walls.)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

“A Democratic Republic can only survive if the representatives and citizenry are moral and ethical”

Yep, and our Constitution was written by people who were While, Male, landowners (as I understand it), and it was written by people of the same type.

They probably wouldn’t have bothered writing a Constitution if they knew that the Tribalists (people other than the above) would get to vote and thus would simply use it to seize power for themselves.


15 posted on 01/12/2024 3:15:06 PM PST by BobL (Trump gets my vote, even if I have to write him in; Millions of others will do the same)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

MORAL AND ETHICAL? HAHAHAHAHAHAHA! oh...YOU were serious? so ory...sides hurt...can’t write...


16 posted on 01/12/2024 4:11:19 PM PST by Qwapisking ("IF the Second goes first the First goes second" L.Star )
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To: Olog-hai
We aren’t a “democratic” republic

Agreed, we're supposed to be a representative republic, not a democratic anything!

17 posted on 01/12/2024 4:33:15 PM PST by ducttape45 (Proverbs 14:34, "Righteousness exalteth a nation: but sin is a reproach to any people.")
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

Seems to me the Founding Fathers were kind of naïve if they thought the people were moral and ethical. People have always been immoral and unethical since Adam and Eve. Surprised the Republic has survived this long.


18 posted on 01/12/2024 6:32:16 PM PST by funwithfood
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