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President Trump Goes There: Retruths that that Haley is not constitutionally eligible to be president because her parents were not US citizens when she was born in South Carolina.
CNN ^ | January 9, 2024 | John Avlon

Posted on 01/09/2024 3:41:30 PM PST by Macho MAGA Man

CNN — It was only a matter of time before former President Donald Trump went birther on Nikki Haley.

After all, the former South Carolina governor and UN Ambassador is a pioneering candidate, the daughter of immigrants from India, and she’s rising in the polls. It’s not only concern about his electoral prospects that’s driving him; Trump’s massive yet fragile ego also feels threatened. So he reached for the most reflexive slur he could find via the far-right news site Gateway Pundit, reposting on Truth Social the false claim that Haley is not constitutionally eligible to be president because her parents were not US citizens when she was born in South Carolina. The Gateway Pundit post cited a legal analysis piece on the American Greatness site.

(Excerpt) Read more at cnn.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: cnnfakenews; cnnpropaganda; dahorserace; editorialasnews; johnavlon; naturalborncitizen; nikkihaley; nikkimcrombush; nimrata; noteligible; thehorseface; thehorserace; trump; whythelongfacenikki
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I love it. The CNN contributor is losing his mind over this.
1 posted on 01/09/2024 3:41:30 PM PST by Macho MAGA Man
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To: Macho MAGA Man

birther?

Didn’t he go all constitution?


2 posted on 01/09/2024 3:43:18 PM PST by WeaslesRippedMyFlesh (Wake me up when somebody tells the truth.)
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To: Macho MAGA Man

Here’s the American Greatness article that Trump referenced:

The Constitution Absolutely Prohibits Nikki Haley From Being President Or Vice President

https://amgreatness.com/2024/01/01/the-constitution-absolutely-prohibits-nikki-haley-from-being-president-or-vice-president/

The question of presidential eligibility under the Constitution has been a hot button one, especially in recent years with the controversial campaigns of John McCain, Barack Obama, Ted Cruz, and most recently, Kamala Harris. The controversy arises from the text of the Constitution itself. Article II, Section 1, stipulates that “No person except a natural born citizen or a citizen of the United States, at the time of the adoption of this Constitution, shall be eligible to the Office of President.” The core issue centers on the meaning of the phrase “natural born citizen.” The Constitution explicitly lays out three requirements to run for president: (i) be at least 35 years old; (ii) have been a resident of the United States for at least 14 years; and (iii) be a natural-born citizen of the United States.

The question of natural born citizenship is crystal clear, though it often gets confused with the more controversial debate surrounding birthright citizenship. From the outset, it should be stressed that the two are entirely different constitutional issues. The question of natural-born citizenship as an eligibility requirement for president is well settled, whereas the issue of birthright citizenship is still up in the air.

There is a reason the Founding Fathers attached the requirement of being a “natural born citizen” to the President (and, with the passage of the Twelfth Amendment, the Vice President) only and no other federal offices. The idea was to elevate the threshold for the highest elected political office of the land; notably, that language is absent in Article I, which stipulates that lawmakers running for the House or Senate need only be “citizens” to qualify. The early debates surrounding the passage of the Constitution add support for the view that the Framers wanted to exclude “the admission of foreigners into the administration of our national government,” as John Jay wrote to George Washington in July of 1787.

A central concern for the architects of the nascent American republic was that only the most qualified statesmen be eligible for the country’s highest office. In his Commentaries, Joseph Story elaborated that “[i]t is indispensable… that the president should be a natural born citizen of the United States… [T]he general propriety of the exclusion of foreigners, in common cases, will scarcely be doubted by any sound statesman.” Joseph Story, who enjoyed over a thirty-year reign as Associate Justice of the Supreme Court, famously elaborated the principles of the republicanism of Alexander Hamilton and John Marshall well into the mid-nineteenth century. His Commentaries specifically distinguished between natural born and naturalized citizens, the latter of whom were ineligible to run for president, despite qualifying for the privileges of citizenship. This view is supported by the best legal commentary of the day, Emmerich de Vattel’s Law of Nature and of Nations, a contemporaneous authority for the Founding Fathers on questions of citizenship. de Vattel’s work states that “[t]he natives, or natural-born citizens, are those born in the country, of parents who are citizens.” The question of natural born citizenship is ergo fundamentally distinct from the ongoing issue of birthright citizenship, raised in the Fourteenth Amendment, which confers citizenship to “[a]ll persons born or naturalized in the United States.” The key word here is citizenship, not eligibility for the presidential office, which, as noted earlier, demands a much higher threshold for qualification.

Read more in the link.


3 posted on 01/09/2024 3:46:41 PM PST by Macho MAGA Man (The last two weren't balloons. One was a cylindrical objects Trump is being given the Alex Jones tr)
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Let her go run for president of India then.


4 posted on 01/09/2024 3:46:43 PM PST by Bullish (...And just like that, I was dropped from the ping-list)
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To: Macho MAGA Man

barky is Exhibit A demonstrating EXACTLY WHY the founding fathers included the Natural-Born clause.
And, just as Franklin feared, we would eventually ignore the clause thereby failing to “keep the republic”.


5 posted on 01/09/2024 3:48:10 PM PST by rhinohunter (Elections have consequences. Stolen elections have catastrophic consequences.)
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To: Macho MAGA Man

OMG...I tortured myself by reading that article.

It’s just like the trolls posting here...the don’t realize how completely unhinged they are with what they say.

I LOVE that Trump can so easily trigger these asshats.


6 posted on 01/09/2024 3:51:02 PM PST by mlitefan (Long time lurker...)
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To: rhinohunter
Documents evidencing Kamala Harris ineligibility for VP (and the Presidency) under terms of the Constitution (Natural Born Citizen clause plus the 12th Amendment) available via these links:

Kamala Kancel Website (downloadable PDF available via link)

Kamala Kancel Twitter Site (twitter login required to view)

Additional note: Kamala Harris is majority CAUCASIAN (53% to 56%, per the referenced documents), so it is not "racist" to question her eligibility to hold her present office.

7 posted on 01/09/2024 3:51:12 PM PST by KamalaKancel
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To: Macho MAGA Man

“Trump’s massive yet fragile ego also feels threatened.”

THIS is CNN.


8 posted on 01/09/2024 3:52:41 PM PST by cdcdawg (Our empire of sodomy is failing as it should. How else could it go? )
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To: Macho MAGA Man

This passes as a NEWS story?


9 posted on 01/09/2024 3:59:08 PM PST by JennysCool ("It's easier to fool people than to convince them that they have been fooled." - Mark Twain)
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To: Macho MAGA Man

“It was only a matter of time before former President Donald Trump went birther on Nikki Haley.”

The writers of the Constitution went birther first, as in natural born citizen.


10 posted on 01/09/2024 4:00:38 PM PST by odawg
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To: Macho MAGA Man

Trump’s private polling must be showing a HUGE jump for Nikki. Otherwise, there is no reason for him to acknowledge her. Look for Trump to enter a GOP debate soon.


11 posted on 01/09/2024 4:05:58 PM PST by Gary from Dayton (Army Vet 1986-1991)
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To: Macho MAGA Man

What, the Left won’t adhere to the Constitution?

Wait, I thought they were trying to save the Democracy!

LMAO


12 posted on 01/09/2024 4:07:07 PM PST by DoughtyOne (I pledge allegiance to the flag of the USofA & to the Constitutional REPUBLIC for which it stands.)
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To: Macho MAGA Man

CNN slobbering all over thier fellow globalist.


13 posted on 01/09/2024 4:08:15 PM PST by cowboyusa (YESHUA IS KING OF AMERICA! DEATH TO MARXISM AND LEFTISM! AMERICA, COWBOY UP!)
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To: Macho MAGA Man

It’s a terrific test case. I wish the USSC would take it (they won’t).

If they did, they would put an end to birther claims once and for all.


14 posted on 01/09/2024 4:08:35 PM PST by Jim Noble (The future belongs to those who show up)
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To: Macho MAGA Man

Guess she’s out as VP. Or will he forget about this by July?


15 posted on 01/09/2024 4:10:27 PM PST by 3RIVRS
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To: Macho MAGA Man

I ... LOVE ... THIS ... Jus soli + Jus sanguinis is the gold standard. And the chair of the POTUS historically was, and should ever be, held to the gold standard. For pity's sake, we've seen what an usurper like Obama can do! Preach, Trump! Stay MAGA!


16 posted on 01/09/2024 4:13:38 PM PST by so_real ( "The Congress of the United States recommends and approves the Holy Bible for use in all schools.")
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To: Macho MAGA Man
...Reposting on Truth Social the false claim that Haley is not constitutionally eligible to be president because her parents were not US citizens when she was born in South Carolina.

Ask Trump if he believes if four out of his five children are equally ineligible.

17 posted on 01/09/2024 4:14:47 PM PST by Drew68 (Ron DeSantis for President. A conservative who fights and wins..)
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To: Macho MAGA Man

*giggle*.

Sure thing, Mr. Avlon, you gutless, factless hack!


18 posted on 01/09/2024 4:16:32 PM PST by sauropod (The obedient always think of themselves as virtuous rather than cowardly.)
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To: Drew68

I’m sure he’d agree.


19 posted on 01/09/2024 4:18:30 PM PST by Macho MAGA Man (The last two weren't balloons. One was a cylindrical objects Trump is being given the Alex Jones tr)
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To: Macho MAGA Man

“There is a reason the Founding Fathers attached the requirement of being a “natural born citizen” to the President (and, with the passage of the Twelfth Amendment, the Vice President) only and no other federal offices.”

The natural born citizenship clause became far more important than simply allowing foreigners into the office of the Presidency when the Presidency also became the Commander-in-Chief of all the nation’s armed forces. If it wasn’t for this fact, simply being a 14A §1 birthright citizen would have sufficed. That is to say, a citizen at birth with no need to naturalize.


20 posted on 01/09/2024 4:21:04 PM PST by batazoid (Plainclothes cop at Capital during Jan 6 riot...)
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