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She should debate Kamala Harris.
1 posted on 12/27/2023 11:23:46 PM PST by McGruff
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To: McGruff

I’ve read up on the Civil, althought not deeply. I’ve concluded that the kernel cause of the war was that the North was losing their source of cheap cotton if the South left. It certainly wasn’t because of slavery, because slavery was only banned in Maine at the time and the rest of the Union had slaves.


2 posted on 12/27/2023 11:25:51 PM PST by Jonty30 (In a nuclear holocaust, there is always a point in time where the meat is cooked to perfection. )
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To: McGruff

Nikki Haley is a foreigner at heart


3 posted on 12/27/2023 11:32:43 PM PST by SaveFerris (Luke 17:28 ... as it was in the days of Lot; they did eat, they drank, they bought, they sold ......)
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To: McGruff
[...] after she refused to name slavery as the primary cause of the Civil War. [...] The White House hopeful [...] failed to mention the antebellum South’s “peculiar institution” in her response.

So-called "journalist" needs to learn English.

Regards,

4 posted on 12/27/2023 11:37:44 PM PST by alexander_busek (Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.)
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To: McGruff

Too bad about Nikki’s campaign already being over and they haven’t even told her yet.


6 posted on 12/27/2023 11:45:07 PM PST by Bullish (...And just like that, I was dropped from the ping-list)
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To: McGruff

The War Between the States was about slavery in the same way the American Revolution was about tea.

But a southern governor should have had a canned answer for this gotcha question.


12 posted on 12/28/2023 1:08:34 AM PST by UnwashedPeasant (The pandemic we suffer from is not COVID. It is Marxist Democrat Leftism.)
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To: McGruff

inner city blacks are quick to call anything work related “ slavery” anything, such as , having to get up and go to a job for 8-10 hours 5-6 days a week.


15 posted on 12/28/2023 1:40:15 AM PST by Ikeon (I stopped going to my family doctor whenever I felt sick. I've never been healthier. .)
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To: McGruff

What does anyone expect from an Indian anchor baby with no cultural history of the United States?


16 posted on 12/28/2023 2:10:40 AM PST by Reno89519 (It's war. No one murders and takes Americans hostage. Time to act. Declare war on Islamic Hamas.)
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To: McGruff

Slavery was NOT the primary reason for the civil war.


22 posted on 12/28/2023 3:43:24 AM PST by GrumpyOldGuy
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To: McGruff
Nikki Haley's answer is a tempest in a teapot.

How many Union soldiers marched off to war vowing to Free the Slaves?

Maybe 10%.

It was a war to "Preserve the Union," especially after South Carolina violently attacked Fort Sumter, off the coast of Charleston.

Lincoln did not implement the Emancipation Proclamation until 20 months after the Civil War started.

And, according to the 1860 Census, just 20% of Southern families owned slaves, which means a lot of low skill Southern males were directly competing with slaves to make a living.

In 2023, the Political Left shrieks "Racist" at the first mention of States Rights.

But, in 1860, 50% of Americans had lived their entire lives within 100 miles of their birth place, and more than 50% in the Southern states.

In my opinion, the "Civil War" was really the "War Between the States," and States Rights was the central issue.

23 posted on 12/28/2023 4:14:59 AM PST by zeestephen (Trump "Lost" By 43,000 Votes - Spread Across Three States - GA, WI, AZ)
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To: McGruff

Icky Nikki is right about this one. The cause of the civil war was preserving state rights vs the federal government. Lincoln said in his inaugural speech that he had no intention of ending slavery. He issued the Emancipation Proclamation in 1862 because he had to shore up support for the war and justify the massive loss of life by making the civil war a moral cause.


26 posted on 12/28/2023 4:35:30 AM PST by DeplorablePaul
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It was not about slavery, it was about states rights.

In Lincolns own words:

Executive Mansion,
Washington, August 22, 1862.

Hon. Horace Greeley:
Dear Sir.

I have just read yours of the 19th. addressed to myself through the New-York Tribune. If there be in it any statements, or assumptions of fact, which I may know to be erroneous, I do not, now and here, controvert them. If there be in it any inferences which I may believe to be falsely drawn, I do not now and here, argue against them. If there be perceptable in it an impatient and dictatorial tone, I waive it in deference to an old friend, whose heart I have always supposed to be right.

As to the policy I “seem to be pursuing” as you say, I have not meant to leave any one in doubt.

I would save the Union. I would save it the shortest way under the Constitution. The sooner the national authority can be restored; the nearer the Union will be “the Union as it was.” If there be those who would not save the Union, unless they could at the same time save slavery, I do not agree with them. If there be those who would not save the Union unless they could at the same time destroy slavery, I do not agree with them. My paramount object in this struggle is to save the Union, and is not either to save or to destroy slavery. If I could save the Union without freeing any slave I would do it, and if I could save it by freeing all the slaves I would do it; and if I could save it by freeing some and leaving others alone I would also do that. What I do about slavery, and the colored race, I do because I believe it helps to save the Union; and what I forbear, I forbear because I do not believe it would help to save the Union. I shall do less whenever I shall believe what I am doing hurts the cause, and I shall do more whenever I shall believe doing more will help the cause. I shall try to correct errors when shown to be errors; and I shall adopt new views so fast as they shall appear to be true views.

I have here stated my purpose according to my view of official duty; and I intend no modification of my oft-expressed personal wish that all men every where could be free.

Yours,
A. Lincoln.


27 posted on 12/28/2023 4:46:39 AM PST by maddog55 (The only thing systemic in America is the left's hatred of it!)
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To: McGruff

Not a fan of her. Hearing only her answer and not the question it sounded like she thought the question was how to prevent a civil war?


33 posted on 12/28/2023 5:36:59 AM PST by TornadoAlley3 ( I'm Proud To Be An Okie From Muskogee)
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To: McGruff

The North couldn’t produce cotton as cheaply as the South for northern mills. First the North taxed arriving southern cotton, but that was ruled unconstitutional. Then the North banned southern cotton.

The South reacted by selling to British mills. Then Britain sold the cheap material and clothing in the North. So the North blockaded southern shipping ports. That’s when it hit the fan.


34 posted on 12/28/2023 6:22:40 AM PST by nagant
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Taxes and States Rights were the cause of the CW. What are they doing about slavery around the world today?


36 posted on 12/28/2023 6:30:39 AM PST by bray (You can tell who the Commies fear.)
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To: McGruff

As long as the public allows one race to hijack history there will never be an honest explanation of the myriad of reasons for the Civil War.


38 posted on 12/28/2023 6:39:28 AM PST by vetvetdoug
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I’ve posted often that she is not an American. She knows nothing about our country or Constitution.

Wants to squelch First Amendment. Removes Southern monuments and flag. Now this.

She was raised by Indian parents. She probably is up to speed on India’s history.


41 posted on 12/28/2023 6:55:54 AM PST by MayflowerMadam ("A coward dies a thousand times before his death, but the valiant taste of death but once.")
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To: McGruff

Nikki is not Ready for Prime Time.


43 posted on 12/28/2023 7:06:21 AM PST by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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To: McGruff

slavery was not the primary cause of the civil war, just one of many causes.


76 posted on 12/28/2023 11:54:12 AM PST by markman46 (engage brain before using keyboard!!!)
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