Posted on 12/27/2023 11:23:46 PM PST by McGruff
Democrats and supporters of Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis criticized former South Carolina Gov. Nikki Haley on Wednesday after she refused to name slavery as the primary cause of the Civil War.
Haley, 51, made the apparent gaffe during a town hall event in Berlin, NH, after a voter asked the former United Nations ambassador to identify the cause of the deadliest war in American history.
The White House hopeful appeared caught off guard by the question and failed to mention the antebellum South’s “peculiar institution” in her response.
“I think the cause of the Civil War was basically how government was going to run,” Haley said. “The freedoms and what people could and couldn’t do.”
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She also signs on to American media defined racism, whatever it is, including the familiar Confederate Battle Banner being displayed in SC.
Slavery was NOT the primary reason for the civil war.
How many Union soldiers marched off to war vowing to Free the Slaves?
Maybe 10%.
It was a war to "Preserve the Union," especially after South Carolina violently attacked Fort Sumter, off the coast of Charleston.
Lincoln did not implement the Emancipation Proclamation until 20 months after the Civil War started.
And, according to the 1860 Census, just 20% of Southern families owned slaves, which means a lot of low skill Southern males were directly competing with slaves to make a living.
In 2023, the Political Left shrieks "Racist" at the first mention of States Rights.
But, in 1860, 50% of Americans had lived their entire lives within 100 miles of their birth place, and more than 50% in the Southern states.
In my opinion, the "Civil War" was really the "War Between the States," and States Rights was the central issue.
I think it would be more accurate to say that the South wanted to maintain the 50-50 U.S. Congressional split on slavery.
Nikki essentially ignored the question and took the opportunity to issue a campaign statement. Just like every other candidate.
She should have said “There was nothing “Civil” about the War of Northern Aggression.”
Icky Nikki is right about this one. The cause of the civil war was preserving state rights vs the federal government. Lincoln said in his inaugural speech that he had no intention of ending slavery. He issued the Emancipation Proclamation in 1862 because he had to shore up support for the war and justify the massive loss of life by making the civil war a moral cause.
It was not about slavery, it was about states rights.
In Lincolns own words:
Executive Mansion,
Washington, August 22, 1862.
Hon. Horace Greeley:
Dear Sir.
I have just read yours of the 19th. addressed to myself through the New-York Tribune. If there be in it any statements, or assumptions of fact, which I may know to be erroneous, I do not, now and here, controvert them. If there be in it any inferences which I may believe to be falsely drawn, I do not now and here, argue against them. If there be perceptable in it an impatient and dictatorial tone, I waive it in deference to an old friend, whose heart I have always supposed to be right.
As to the policy I “seem to be pursuing” as you say, I have not meant to leave any one in doubt.
I would save the Union. I would save it the shortest way under the Constitution. The sooner the national authority can be restored; the nearer the Union will be “the Union as it was.” If there be those who would not save the Union, unless they could at the same time save slavery, I do not agree with them. If there be those who would not save the Union unless they could at the same time destroy slavery, I do not agree with them. My paramount object in this struggle is to save the Union, and is not either to save or to destroy slavery. If I could save the Union without freeing any slave I would do it, and if I could save it by freeing all the slaves I would do it; and if I could save it by freeing some and leaving others alone I would also do that. What I do about slavery, and the colored race, I do because I believe it helps to save the Union; and what I forbear, I forbear because I do not believe it would help to save the Union. I shall do less whenever I shall believe what I am doing hurts the cause, and I shall do more whenever I shall believe doing more will help the cause. I shall try to correct errors when shown to be errors; and I shall adopt new views so fast as they shall appear to be true views.
I have here stated my purpose according to my view of official duty; and I intend no modification of my oft-expressed personal wish that all men every where could be free.
Yours,
A. Lincoln.
“Sorry, [Haley]. The Civil War was about slavery. Period,” Rep. Dean Phillips (D-Minn.),”
A yankee democrat would say that.
she knows that she is hated throughout the south for her reaction to the dylann roof murders. She is hoping to smooth over that mistake, but it won’t work.
Totally a gotcha question coordinated with the RATS:
The individual who posed the question to the candidate responded that it was “astonishing” to hear her answer “without mentioning the word slavery.”Now we will see this question asked of Republicans everywhere they appear.“What do you want me to say about slavery? Next question,” Haley shot back.
President Biden’s X account shared a video of Haley’s town hall moment and tweeted, “It was about slavery.”
Democratic National Committee Chairman Jaime Harrison tweeted that Haley’s answer was “not stunning if you were a Black resident in [South Carolina] when she was Governor.”
“Same person who said the confederate flag was about tradition & heritage and as a minority woman she was the right person to defend keeping it on state house grounds. Some may have forgotten but I haven’t. Time to take off the rose colored Nikki Haley glasses folks,” he added.
I’m not claiming that this is what was happening, but it would fit with everything else that was happening.
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This was exactly what was happening.
In a way, that does does make the war about slavery, .but the North didn’t care about slavery, they cared about the free labor the south was getting and thus the lower prices they could sell their cotton.
I have a similar understanding, and that the cause of slavery was an eventuality that finally gave Lincoln the means.
Not a fan of her. Hearing only her answer and not the question it sounded like she thought the question was how to prevent a civil war?
The North couldn’t produce cotton as cheaply as the South for northern mills. First the North taxed arriving southern cotton, but that was ruled unconstitutional. Then the North banned southern cotton.
The South reacted by selling to British mills. Then Britain sold the cheap material and clothing in the North. So the North blockaded southern shipping ports. That’s when it hit the fan.
I laughed at the Ken Burns Civil War documentary, which otherwise was great, when Shelby Foote blew up the entire narrative.
Taxes and States Rights were the cause of the CW. What are they doing about slavery around the world today?
And prominent among those “states’ rights” was the “right” to enslave their fellow men and women.
As long as the public allows one race to hijack history there will never be an honest explanation of the myriad of reasons for the Civil War.
The United States flag flew over slavery for 100 years. The Confederate flag flew over it for 4 years.
Cotton and states rights had more to do with the civil war than slavery.
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