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Supreme Court Heard Arguments on Disputed Tax Provision Predicted to ‘Wreak Havoc’ on Taxes
SLAY News ^ | December 26, 2023 - 9:13 am | Nick R. Hamilton

Posted on 12/26/2023 7:11:15 AM PST by Red Badger

A challenge against the constitutionality of a provision of President Donald Trump’s 2017 tax reform law recently reached the Supreme Court for oral arguments.

The provision is the one-time repatriation tax on American taxpayers’ investments in foreign corporations.

Opponents of the lawsuit have warned that the Supreme Court ruling against the particular tax would “wreak havoc” more broadly on the tax code.

Potentially, it could cost the U.S. government trillions of dollars in potential tax revenue, according to NPR.

However, the challengers against the repatriation tax have argued that it violates the U.S. Constitution’s 16th Amendment in that it imposes a tax on purported “income” that may or may not have actually been realized or received by a taxpayer.

The 16th Amendment, which took effect in 1913 after the Supreme Court had previously struck down prior income tax laws, states:

“The Congress shall have power to lay and collect taxes on incomes, from whatever source derived, without apportionment among the several States, and without regard to any census or enumeration.”

In the case of Moore v. United States, which was argued before the court this month, the question at issue is “Whether the 16th Amendment authorizes Congress to tax unrealized sums without apportionment among the states.”

At the center of that lawsuit are Washington state couple Charles and Kathleen Moore.

Nearly 20 years ago, the Moores invested $40,000 in an India-based power tools company and have since seen the value of their initial investment grow substantially to more than $500,000, though they’ve never received or realized any actual monetary return on that investment.

Nonetheless, due to the repatriation tax included in the 2017 tax reform law, the Moores were forced to pay the government a $15,000 one-time tax on the unrealized “income” from their investment in a foreign corporation.

“They never saw income,” the Manhattan Institute’s Ilya Shapiro, who filed a brief in support of the Moores, said of the disputed tax, according to NPR.

“It never hit their bank account.

“They never got cash.

“They never got a check.”

Shapiro asserted that “Their stake in the company increased but they did not get any income” and stressed the fact that they “have never seen a red cent from this investment.”

In contrast, the outlet reported that the government and other supporters of the tax have argued that aside from this particular provision of the 2017 tax reform law, which was ostensibly intended to catch tax avoidance by U.S. taxpayers via foreign investments and net around $340 billion within a decade, an adverse ruling from the Supreme Court could be “disastrous” in that it would upend the tax code and call into question the constitutionality of countless other tax law provisions.

In fact, NYU Tax Law Center Director Chye-Ching Huang told the outlet that a ruling against the 2017 provision would unleash “chaos, and we would be facing a tsunami of tax litigation over years and decades trying to sort through the rubble of this.”

George Callas, a former top aide to former House Speaker Paul Ryan (R-WI) who helped draft the 2017 law, said the Supreme Court was “not playing with fire” but rather “enriched uranium” and could “blow up large portions of the tax code.”

Either those dire predictions were overwrought or perhaps were heeded and taken to heart by a majority of the justices, as SCOTUSblog reported following the arguments that the high court seemed inclined to uphold the tax on potentially unrealized gains, albeit likely with a “narrow ruling” that can’t be more broadly applied to attack or defend other questionable tax law provisions.

Quite predictably, the three liberal justices expressed skepticism toward the arguments put forward by the attorneys representing or supporting the Moores.

However, they were somewhat surprisingly joined in being skeptical by conservative-leaning Justices Brett Kavanaugh and Amy Coney Barrett, who seemed keen to avoid the broader questions about the 16th Amendment and focused closely on the particular tax at issue.

Yet, conservative-leaning Justices Clarence Thomas, Neil Gorsuch, and Samuel Alito all raised concerns about hypothetical new taxes on unrealized “income” that could be imposed by Congress if the disputed repatriation tax is upheld, including taxes on the unrealized growth in value of real estate property, retirement and savings accounts, or assorted stocks and mutual funds.

“If some of the court’s conservative members were worried about the possible implications of a rule for the government, other members of the court expressed concerns that a ruling for the Moores would put — as Kagan said — other ‘very established taxation schemes’ at risk,” SCOTUSblog concluded.

“These concerns, particularly when combined with the comments by Kavanaugh and Barrett, seemed to suggest a narrow ruling for the government, leaving broader questions for another day.”


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1 posted on 12/26/2023 7:11:15 AM PST by Red Badger
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To: Red Badger

>> the Supreme Court was “not playing with fire” but rather “enriched uranium” and could “blow up large portions of the tax code.”

So what? Unconstitutional “law” needs to be repealed regardless of the consequences.

Up next: unconstitutional gun laws, unconstitutional marriage mandates, unconstitutional takings of private property by “law” (I’m looking at you, EPA), ...


2 posted on 12/26/2023 7:20:37 AM PST by Nervous Tick ("First the Saturday people, then the Sunday people...": ISLAM is the problem!)
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To: Red Badger

Fun with words. “Unrealized Gains”. Who gets to value these assets? If value falls, will there be a refund?


3 posted on 12/26/2023 7:21:13 AM PST by griswold3 (Truth, Beauty and Goodness. )
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To: griswold3

I don’t own any stock, but when I did, it went up and down.

If I get taxed when its up, will I get a deduction when its down?...................


4 posted on 12/26/2023 7:24:25 AM PST by Red Badger (Homeless veterans camp in the streets while l aliens are put up in hotels.....................)
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To: Red Badger

Wow! If you challenge a bad law then other people will challenge other bad laws.

What a revolutionary concept!


5 posted on 12/26/2023 7:29:34 AM PST by budj (Combat vet, second of three generations.)
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To: Red Badger

It’s all legalized confistication.


6 posted on 12/26/2023 7:29:54 AM PST by Paladin2
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To: Red Badger

The idea of taxing unrealized capital gains is what will cause chaos in the tax system. So you lost part of the value of your investment this year. Do you get to reduce your taxes for the capital loss?


7 posted on 12/26/2023 7:30:30 AM PST by 17th Miss Regt ( )
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>> If I get taxed when its up, will I get a deduction when its down?...

No, silly! The ratchet strap only goes tighter until we squeeze ALL the stuffing out of you! Now hush, dog faced pony soldier!


8 posted on 12/26/2023 7:31:43 AM PST by Nervous Tick ("First the Saturday people, then the Sunday people...": ISLAM is the problem!)
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To: 17th Miss Regt

This will make investors flee the USA like a illegal migrant with a job offer................


9 posted on 12/26/2023 7:36:09 AM PST by Red Badger (Homeless veterans camp in the streets while l aliens are put up in hotels.....................)
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To: Red Badger

The problem with taxing unrealized weath is that a portion of the assets need to be sold to pay the taxes.

So you are taking productive assets and turning them into government assets.


10 posted on 12/26/2023 7:41:10 AM PST by Fido969
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To: griswold3
Who gets to value these assets?

This seems like a simple question, but I would say a very-public court case in NYC seems to prove this is NOT a very simple question!
11 posted on 12/26/2023 7:52:14 AM PST by ExTxMarine (Finish the Wall and Deport them All!)
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This will make investors flee the USA like a illegal migrant with a job offer................

Ah, but liberals can't think ahead like that when it comes to economics, can they?

12 posted on 12/26/2023 7:53:28 AM PST by 17th Miss Regt ( )
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To: Red Badger

No income, no tax on income. How is this difficult?


13 posted on 12/26/2023 7:56:31 AM PST by Petrosius
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To: Petrosius

‘IMPUTED’ Income....................


14 posted on 12/26/2023 7:59:13 AM PST by Red Badger (Homeless veterans camp in the streets while l aliens are put up in hotels.....................)
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To: Red Badger
Paul Ryan (R-WI) who helped draft the 2017 law
15 posted on 12/26/2023 8:00:03 AM PST by Jeff Chandler (THE ISSUE IS NEVER THE ISSUE. THE REVOLUTION IS THE ISSUE.)
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To: All

A Supreme Court ruling against a particular tax
would “wreak havoc” more broadly on the tax code.


That’s nice......now Hunter Biden can rest easier.


16 posted on 12/26/2023 8:00:33 AM PST by Liz (WRT govt: qualifications for wrecking crews are not as stringent as those for construction crews.)
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To: Red Badger

“Imputed” income or an unrealized capital gain is not income! Until someone hands them a check or cash there is no income.


17 posted on 12/26/2023 8:04:37 AM PST by Petrosius
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To: Red Badger; thinden

“hypothetical new taxes on unrealized “income” that could be imposed by Congress if the disputed repatriation tax is upheld, including taxes on the unrealized growth in value of real estate property, retirement and savings accounts, or assorted stocks and mutual funds.”

A tax on unrealized taxes?


18 posted on 12/26/2023 8:05:08 AM PST by Cletus.D.Yokel (When I say "We" I speak of, -not for-, "We the People")
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To: Fido969

“So you are taking productive assets and turning them into government assets.....”

Precisely what the government requires to continue to issue debt...


19 posted on 12/26/2023 8:06:43 AM PST by mo ("If you understand, no explanation is needed; if you don't understand, no explanation is possible)
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To: Petrosius; Red Badger

Might be a keen slogan for a revolutionary act.

No taxation without realization.
Catchy and somewhat familiar.


20 posted on 12/26/2023 8:07:34 AM PST by Cletus.D.Yokel (When I say "We" I speak of, -not for-, "We the People")
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