Hamas rejects Egyptian proposal to end war with Israel, refuses free elections in Gaza

NY Post ^ | 25/12/23 | Ronny Reyes

[Eleutheria5]

Hamas and Islamic Jihad terror groups operating in Gaza have rejected an Egyptian-led truce proposal with Israel that would see the militants relinquish power in return for an end to the war, sources say.

The terrorists, who conducted the Oct. 7 massacre in Israel, have refused to take part in one of the biggest conditions laid out by negotiators in Cairo on Sunday: an end to Hamas’ reign in Gaza by forming a Palestinian parliament and holding free elections, according to two Egyptian security sources.

The terrorist organizations instead reiterated that the only thing they’re ready to discuss is a prisoner swap that would see more than 100 Israeli hostages released in exchange for hundreds of Palestinian prisoners being held in Israel’s jails.

But a Hamas official who was in Cairo during the negotiations added that even a prisoner swap would only take place once Israel has withdrawn from war-torn Gaza.

“Hamas seeks to end the Israeli aggression against our people, the massacres and genocide, and we discussed with our Egyptian brothers the ways to do that,” the official told Reuters.

“We also said that the aid for our people must keep going and must increase, and it must reach all the population in the north and the south,” the Hamas official added. “After the aggression is stopped and the aid increased, we are ready to discuss prisoner swaps.”

While the peace talks have been previously discussed exchanging one hostage for every three Palestinian women and minors freed, leaders for Islamic Jihad are now demanding a different approach.

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[Lurker]

Civil wars are fought between the residents of a single country. Ukraine and Russia are two different countries.

But you knew that.

Merry Christmas.

L

[FrankRizzo890]

So you have chosen death”

[Reno89519]

It is simpler and more correct to view as a civil war, Ukraine has no history of independence and much of it’s population are Russian. It was never any of our business, still is not, wasted our money, resources, and credibility on the whole mess when we should have been figuring out how to engage and help Russia after the collapse of the Soviet Union. Long past that point, but they should have become natural allies. Instead, our Soviet hate, turned into Russian hate, and they’ve spiraled out of reach, becoming somewhat of a pariah state ran and controlled by soviet-like leaders and oligarchs. An historical loss.

[MinorityRepublican]

Wrong. Ukraine is 🇺🇦.

[Lurker]

“It is simpler and more correct to view as a civil war.”

Simpler? Yes. Correct? No.

“Ukraine has no history of independence..”

I know more than a few Ukrainians who would argue that point with you. One or two of them might even be nice enough to help you find your teeth after they explained things to you.

“and much of it’s population are Russian”

They may speak Russian but if they were born in Ukraine they’re Ukrainian.

“It was never any of our business, still is not, wasted our money, resources, and credibility on the whole mess when we should have been figuring out how to engage and help Russia after the collapse of the Soviet Union.”

On this point you and I are in complete agreement. As of now I hope there’s some way both sides can lose. They’re both hyper corrupt oligarchies and neither of them have clean hands.

L

[Chode]

fine, no quarter...

[SunkenCiv]

OK. Keep killing Hamas.

/bingo

[Phoenix8]

This smart as a razor old man asks a valid question;

Why is the main stream media going nuts over Israeli air strikes on Gaza (after they were attacked on Oct 7). Yet completely silent over TURKISH air strikes on the Kurdish REFUGEE camps (up to 70 a day)?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ihQpEA-LvKo

[Paul R.]

when we should have been figuring out how to engage and help Russia after the collapse of the Soviet Union.”

Well, we actually did expend serious resources, and credibility on the whole mess that was Russia after the collapse of the Soviet Union. The big problem on our side was that we had Clinton doing most of the administering of it, when we needed someone like Bush 1 (other flaws notwithstanding) to manage it.

The big problem on their side was (and is) that Russia is, Russia, and not enough of it really wants to change...