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Russia Dominating the Seas as American Influence Over Vital Routes Wanes
The New American ^ | December 23, 2023 | Luis Miguel

Posted on 12/23/2023 2:35:56 PM PST by E. Pluribus Unum

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To: E. Pluribus Unum
"While Russia has increased its independence and sovereignty..."

That must be why the US made machine tools in their defense factories and smuggled US made electronic components in all of their missiles, drones, and artillery fire control systems.

Without smuggled in technology from the west Russia wouldn't be doing anything.

21 posted on 12/23/2023 4:26:43 PM PST by freeandfreezing
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To: jimwatx
Welcome to more nonsensical Russian propaganda.

Russia has so much sea power that they lost the Black Sea to Ukraine, a country that doesn't even have a navy.

22 posted on 12/23/2023 4:27:54 PM PST by freeandfreezing
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To: moovova
Why would a patriotic American post that Iranian propaganda image?
23 posted on 12/23/2023 4:29:49 PM PST by freeandfreezing
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To: sphinx
The core of the issue here is that there are few, if any, international shipping lines domiciled in the U.S. This country doesn’t have the legal or diplomatic justification to protect someone else’s civilian ships.

It’s really that simple.

24 posted on 12/23/2023 4:30:44 PM PST by Alberta's Child (If something in government doesn’t make sense, you can be sure it makes dollars.)
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To: freeandfreezing
Without smuggled in technology from the west Russia wouldn't be doing anything.

Without hundreds of billions of stolen US taxpayer dollars globohomo Ukraine puppet-man wouldn't be doing anything.

25 posted on 12/23/2023 4:31:26 PM PST by E. Pluribus Unum (The worst thing about censorship is █████ ██ ████ ████████ █ ███████ ████. FJB.)
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To: SauronOfMordor
What happens when they build and launch thousands?

Their launching sites, warehouses, barracks, and nearby buildings get vaporized.

And then the EW systems knock down the drones.

Right now Ukraine shoots down more than 95% of all Iranian long range drones. And they aren't using modern AA systems except in a few areas.

26 posted on 12/23/2023 4:32:06 PM PST by freeandfreezing
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To: SauronOfMordor
What happens when they build and launch thousands?

What happens when US troops launch hundreds of thousands of drones back at them?

Have you watched what happens to Russian infantry when even a few drones are working against them? It is painful to watch some guy in a firefight, hiding behind what he thinks is cover and then a grenade drops right on top of him.

27 posted on 12/23/2023 4:34:49 PM PST by freeandfreezing
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To: ProtectOurFreedom

“each munition used by US warships in the Red Sea cost between $1 million and $4.3 million”

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Amazing. And that doesn’t include the cost of the associated logistics, maintenance and training.

Oh well, what’s a few hundred million compared to the $80 billion we abandoned in Afghanistan. /sarc


28 posted on 12/23/2023 4:44:42 PM PST by Starboard
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

It’s part of The Plan.


29 posted on 12/23/2023 5:17:35 PM PST by Savage Beast (TRUTH is a terrifying thing to behold when trapped in a web of delusion.)
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To: Widget Jr

One might say that the “New American” is actually NEITHER— new or American.

Russia Today is hardly a source on russian naval power. As prior posted their aircraft carrier can’t leave port without a seagoing tug following in case of breakdown. The only equivalent in the US Navy is the very “green” soy diesel powered USS Zumwalt whose engines broke down on the shakedown cruise while entering the Panama Canal. Had to be towed to a shipyard for extensive repairs— engines damaged, said to be by the ridiculously dirty “green” diesel fuel. and also a sketchy drive transmission.

The Russian navy is a joke— see: Ukraine taking out 2 major vessels using the equivalent of MANPADS. Seriously- what major navy could ever allow that? Alcoholic command leadership is but one part of this.


30 posted on 12/23/2023 5:40:51 PM PST by John S Mosby (Sic Semper Tyrannis)
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To: Forward the Light Brigade
Putin is a better card player

Putin is still an idiot, he just happens to be best-buddies with the thugs

But that will backfire on Russia eventually ...


31 posted on 12/23/2023 6:00:59 PM PST by canuck_conservative (NATO - keeping Europe free of Russian invaders for 74 years - you're welcome!)
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To: jdege

“ because it really has no vital interests at stake.”

There couldn’t be a more untrue statement ever spoken .


32 posted on 12/23/2023 6:03:26 PM PST by HereInTheHeartland (Have you seen Joe Biden's picture on a milk carton?)
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To: Reverend Wright

You really hate America don’t you? Seems to be a commonality amongst all you Ruzzian-loving Putin worshippers around here.


33 posted on 12/23/2023 6:04:34 PM PST by MeganC (There is nothing feminine about feminism. )
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To: Reverend Wright
to take revenge for the Moskva

What are you talking about, Rev'rund?

Russia said the Moskva "sank after accidentally catching fire while being towed" ... Russia has never changed that story

Are you now saying Russia lied to us all??

(lol)


34 posted on 12/23/2023 6:05:05 PM PST by canuck_conservative (NATO - keeping Europe free of Russian invaders for 74 years - you're welcome!)
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To: MeganC; Conservative Canuck

NeoCons send $100 billion in US weapons to be used by a proxy against the Russian military.

Then they are surprised and enraged when Russia gives weapons to THEIR proxies to use against the USA.


35 posted on 12/23/2023 7:43:43 PM PST by Reverend Wright ( Everything touched by progressives, dies !)
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To: HereInTheHeartland; jdege

New nations are adding carriers to their military
capabilities.

I do think the could easily lead to us not having to carry
the full load should hostilities break out.

India realizes China is a threat, and if it wants to have
a chance to avoid full one-on-one conflict, it needs to
partner with the U.S. while it can.

Seeing either of us weakened, would be a poor time to
finally get with it.


36 posted on 12/23/2023 7:47:04 PM PST by DoughtyOne (I pledge allegiance to the flag of the USofA & to the Constitutional REPUBLIC for which it stands.)
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As Russia Today (RT) reports:

Literal state sponsored propaganda...posted as news here.

37 posted on 12/23/2023 8:00:12 PM PST by Republican Wildcat
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To: hardspunned
The financiers of the manufacturing, shipping, and buying own the burden of ensuring the goods make it to their destination but want to push that burden onto someone else. They want the reward but not the risk.

Put the burden of protecting the merchandise on the manufacturer: "If you want to sell it, you'll protect it en route."
The manufacturers can argue they'll sell it to others instead. They don't have a navy although the government in the manufacturing country might decide to solve the problem.
Amazon assumed the burden of safe delivery of their products, instead of paying others to ship their merchandise.

Put the burden of protecting the merchandise on the shipper: "If you want to ship it, you'll protect it en route."
The shipper can argue they'll send it by other routes, which they're doing, or refuse shipment and ship for different manufacturers to different customers.
This is similar to FedEx and UPS refusing to deliver to certain neighborhoods and instead offering pickup service at a nearby retailer.
The shipper could take on this burden, like armored cars for moving money, precious metals, and jewelry. They'd run into issues launching a private navy, air force, and ground army to stop attacks on their ships.

Put the burden of protecting the merchandise on the customer: "If you want to buy it, you'll protect it en route."
The customer can argue that they'll buy something else, from someone else. They don't have a navy.
This would be like ordering a product and having to escort the FedEx or UPS truck to your house to make sure your delivery makes it.

38 posted on 12/23/2023 8:15:27 PM PST by T.B. Yoits
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To: John S Mosby
The Russian navy is a joke— see: Ukraine taking out 2 major vessels using the equivalent of MANPADS.

Who believes Ukraine did that? and who believes it was MANPADS?

A military other than Ukraine did that, and did it with state-of-the-art technology, not a version of a MANPAD.

...just like the team that blew up the Russian-German pipeline.

39 posted on 12/23/2023 8:19:52 PM PST by T.B. Yoits
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To: sphinx
We used to know how to deal with pirates. All it takes is the will to do so.



40 posted on 12/23/2023 8:21:49 PM PST by T.B. Yoits
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