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Proposed Bill Takes on 14th Amendment’s “Subject to the Jurisdiction” Clause
The Post & Email Newspaper ^ | 14 Dec 2023 | Sharon Rondeau

Posted on 12/14/2023 8:12:05 PM PST by CDR Kerchner

(Dec. 14, 2023) — A bill introduced on December 8 in the U.S. House of Representatives seeks to define the scope of a key phrase of Section 1 of the 14th Amendment with the purpose of abolishing “birthright citizenship,” or the bestowing of citizenship on anyone born within the United States by whatever means.

The 14th-Amendment phrase “subject to the jurisdiction thereof” is not only often omitted from mainstream news reporting, but also from the webpage of the U.S. Senate and from other authoritative sources, thereby arguably misleading readers.

The U.S. Senate claims:

Passed by the Senate on June 8, 1866, and ratified two years later, on July 9, 1868, the Fourteenth Amendment granted citizenship to all persons “born or naturalized in the United States,” including formerly enslaved people, and provided all citizens with “equal protection under the laws,” extending the provisions of the Bill of Rights to the states. Source: U.S. Senate

In actuality, Section 1 of the amendment begins:

All persons born or naturalized in the United States and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside.

The bill’s originator, Rep. Brian Babin (R-TX36), in an interview Tuesday told Newsmax the practice of awarding U.S. citizenship to anyone physically born in the country arose from a “misinterpretation” of the 14th Amendment as part of “the policies” arising out of “the open border.”

In a press release dated December 8, Babin described his bill as intended to “end birth tourism” and “combat illegal immigration ... continue reading at: https://www.thepostemail.com/2023/12/14/proposed-bill-takes-on-14th-amendments-subject-to-the-jurisdiction-clause/

(Excerpt) Read more at thepostemail.com ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Government; Miscellaneous; Politics/Elections; US: Texas
KEYWORDS: 14thamendment; birthright; brianbabin; citizenship; constitution; fourteenthamendment; politcaljurisdiction; texas
A much needed action by the U.S. Congress to stop all the birthright citizenship abuse, including tourism birthright citizenship.
1 posted on 12/14/2023 8:12:05 PM PST by CDR Kerchner
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To: CDR Kerchner

40 some years late but better than never.

I hope they also eliminate the DIV ‘diversity’ visa which is inherently unAmerican - it champions where you are from rather than who you are. We don’t have a ‘caste’ system in the USA and I hope we never do.


2 posted on 12/14/2023 8:16:11 PM PST by posterchild
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To: CDR Kerchner
Next, take up the US oath of naturalization.

Two centuries and four SCOTUS cases, is ceremonial only and allows allegiance to a foreign state contrary to the oath.

SCOTUS each case, stated that it is up to Congress to enforce the US oath of naturalization.

3 posted on 12/14/2023 8:34:27 PM PST by Deaf Smith (When a Texan takes his chances, chances will be taken that's for sure.)
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To: CDR Kerchner

If you can be arrested and tried in a US court, you are “subject to the jurisdiction”.


4 posted on 12/14/2023 8:36:52 PM PST by GreenLanternCorps (Hi! I'm the Dread Pirate Roberts! (TM) Ask about franchise opportunities in your area.)
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To: CDR Kerchner

Every Amendment written after the Civil War, especially this one, was poorly written.


5 posted on 12/14/2023 8:39:45 PM PST by lone star annie ( )
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To: CDR Kerchner

The sponsors of the 14th Amendment would agree with this bill.


6 posted on 12/14/2023 8:47:31 PM PST by TBP (Decent people cannot fathom the amoral cruelty of the Biden regime.)
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To: CDR Kerchner

Every liberal and Leftist believes the Constitution and the 14th Amendment are suicide pacts, and plenty of Republicans agree.


7 posted on 12/14/2023 9:08:00 PM PST by jjotto ( Blessed are You LORD, who crushes enemies and subdues the wicked.)
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To: CDR Kerchner
A simple test: can a non-citizen be compelled to serve on a jury? If not, they are not subject to the jurisdiction and fail to satisfy the requirement of the 14th Amendment.
8 posted on 12/14/2023 9:09:41 PM PST by Myrddin
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To: GreenLanternCorps

Bunk

https://ashbrook.org/viewpoint/oped-eastman-04-hamdi/


9 posted on 12/14/2023 9:13:02 PM PST by Regulator (It's fraud, Jim)
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To: posterchild
"We don’t have a ‘caste’ system in the USA and I hope we never do."

You don't realize you already live in a caste called wigger?

10 posted on 12/14/2023 9:16:54 PM PST by wildcard_redneck (He who sacrifices freedom for security deserves neither.)
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To: CDR Kerchner

Introduced all these times previously

https://www.congress.gov/bill/110th-congress/house-bill/1940?q=%7B%22search%22%3A%22birthright+citizenship%22%7D&r=560&s=5&r=597

https://www.congress.gov/bill/111th-congress/house-bill/1868/text/ih

https://www.congress.gov/bill/114th-congress/house-bill/140?q=%7B%22search%22%3A%22birthright+citizenship%22%7D&r=66&s=1&s=1&r=68

https://www.congress.gov/bill/116th-congress/house-bill/140/text

https://www.congress.gov/bill/117th-congress/house-bill/140?s=1&r=9

Actually goes back to the ‘80s. At one time even Biden signed on.

Seems like the Republicants dangle it every coupla years as red meat to the rubes, but it never goes anywhere.


11 posted on 12/14/2023 9:51:23 PM PST by Regulator (It's fraud, Jim)
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To: CDR Kerchner

It took an act of Congress for Native Americans born within the borders of the U.S. to become citizens. That was because the Fourteenth Amendment didn’t make them citizens.


12 posted on 12/14/2023 11:19:43 PM PST by Dr. Franklin ("A republic, if you can keep it." )
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To: CDR Kerchner

I have always believed that “subject to the jurisdiction thereof” interpretation as applied to those who entered illegally does not go far enough.

As I see it, once entered on US soil, the illegal does not automatically gain all the rights of a born child of established US citizens.

To be gain those rights, one must have established residency in the state where the person entered. Depending on state’s requirements under its law, that can take 10-90 days of residency.

So in my view, birthright residency is not allowed.


13 posted on 12/15/2023 5:20:19 AM PST by Zman ("Think of the press as a great keyboard on which the government can play."--- Joseph Goebbels)
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To: AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Arthur Wildfire! March; Berosus; Bockscar; BraveMan; cardinal4; ...

14 posted on 12/15/2023 8:44:03 AM PST by SunkenCiv (Putin should skip ahead to where he kills himself in the bunker.)
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To: GreenLanternCorps

Subject to the jurisdiction refers to being directly from another country and having allegiance to that country. Meaning every Mexican who crosses the border and drops a kid on our side. The kid is still under the jurisdiction of Mexico.

The word jurisdiction in the 14th amendment has been .misinterpreted. The 14th amendment was written to cover slaves. It didn’t even cover native Americans much less a bunch of illegal aliens.


15 posted on 12/15/2023 9:18:36 AM PST by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped)
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To: CDR Kerchner

It’s been my observation over the past few decades that Pubbies are at their rhetorical best a year out from elections and when their bills are DOA in a rat senate.


16 posted on 12/15/2023 12:56:02 PM PST by Jacquerie (ArticleVBlog.com)
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To: wildcard_redneck

How did i become ‘wigger?’


17 posted on 12/18/2023 7:35:35 PM PST by posterchild
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