Posted on 12/12/2023 12:47:45 AM PST by Mount Athos
Here’s a new strategy: let’s take care of our own problems and our own border before getting involved in things that aren’t our problem.
U.S. strategy is to keep sending Ukraine solders thru the meat grinder.
Looking at the replies here I see the usual stuff, US is out of everything, can’t produce enough, need Ukraine to surrender to Putin to save Ukrainian lives…
Interesting how the “solution” only involves Ukraine giving, Putin not so much.
To begin, Putin can end this today, withdraw his troops.
Next, US is not the only producer, Europe, Korea and Ukraine to name a few
US shelves are empty, yup 31 abrams, several hundred Bradley’s and Strykers sent, O aircraft yup cupboard is bare /s
The issue was and is how and when weapons systems and the types/amounts were given.
Almost two years into the war and still no western aircraft with their capacities and capabilities. Short range atacms, cluster munitions given at the end of the offensive rather than at the beginning. Remember the 20’some helicopters destroyed by atacms, now imagine that happening last may. Imagine cluster munitions and the human wave attacks that were costly to the Russians but would have been 10 fold with these weapons. And there was no valid reason not to have given earlier.
The Russian invasion was stopped by a relatively small amount of western aid, himars and 777, javelins and a small amount of air defense checked Russian advances and resulted in Kharkiv and kherson successes.
What have the Russians accomplished since then, bloodbath to almost take bakmut and Andriyivka. Speaking in Ww2 terms, many here like to do , think the Wehrmacht would have been satisfied with those results.
All about “Ukranian” failures, would say 2nd largest military has failed, and the west has failed Ukraine by giving just enough to blunt the Russians, but not enough to defeat.
Again Kharkiv and Kherson were not “goodwill gestures”, the Russians were forced to do these withdrawals, and it would have been much worse for them if proper aid was given.
Militaries win wars, politicians lose wars
Go ahead flame away
I searched Google for “Israel Ukraine”
And found no article confirming funding from Ukraine.
Please provide a link.
Vindman should be on the Front Lines in Ukraine.
He’s referring to this.
Good question, where is Vinman’s sorry ass?
Austin Warns Congress Failing to Pass Ukraine Aid ‘Very Likely’ Leads to US Troops on the Ground In Europe Messenger, 5 December 2023
Lloyd Austin Threatens to Deploy Troops if Ukraine Aid is Shut Down American Greatness, 6 December 2023
Good catch.
It wasn’t hard to find....
“The Russian invasion was stopped by a relatively small amount of western aid, himars and 777, javelins and a small amount of air defense checked Russian advances and resulted in Kharkiv and kherson successes.”
Your timeline is way off. Those weapons didn’t show up until long after Ukraine stopped the Russian attack.
“NARRATIVE ALERT!!!! Note how the NY Times is now blaming Ukraine by stating it’s Ukraine’s war against Russia. For Ukraine’s sake, they better start reading the tea leaves, because they’re about to be cut loose to fight ‘their war’.”
As the NYT is the main Democrat media mouthpiece, this isn’t a good sign for Ukraine. They better make hay while the sun shines and start peace negotiations.
Ukraine has no choice—they must use false flag attacks on NATO to get help—if they do not trigger article five in some way, they are finished by next Spring. Poland is the best target for a “Russian” attack—they would be quick to blame Putin. What could the CIA/MI6 do? Assassinate leaders? Launch a “poison Gas attack” on Warsaw? A germ bomb on Paris? a Nuke on Germany? Hit a Nuke plant in France? It must be horrible and must be blamed on Putin. If they fail—they war is over.
Thank you for the link.
The Russian are already talking about saving other Russian speakers beginning with Latvia.
How many times are we told they were so close to winning the war and Russia was almost defeated. I’ve lost count honestly. How about, you find a way for a truce, cease, fire, etc.
Where are the college kids protesting in the streets for a cease fire?
Yeah sure......”routine.”
Biden is shopping for a winnable war
he can bring to his faltering campaign.
Oceania has always been at war with Eastasia.
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