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J.D. Vance says Ukraine will have to ‘cede some territory’
1ft.io ^ | 10 Dec23 | Ramsey Touchberry

Posted on 12/11/2023 4:51:35 PM PST by delta7

Sen. J.D. Vance said Sunday that U.S. officials should accept the notion that Ukraine is likely to “cede some territory” in its fight against unprovoked Russian aggression. The Ohio Republican’s remarks come as Congress weighs more aid for Ukraine, with Democrats calling for additional assistance with few if any strings attached and Republicans trying to link aid to more funding to secure the southern U.S. border. “What’s in America’s best interest is to accept Ukraine is going to have to cede some territory to the Russians and we need to bring this war to a close,” Mr. Vance, who opposes more aid, said on CNN’s “State of the Union.” “But when I think about the great human tragedy here, hundreds of thousands of Eastern Europeans innocent have been killed in this conflict, the thing that’s in our interest and in theirs is to stop the killing.” President Biden has requested another $60 billion for Ukraine as part of a $110 billion national security package that also includes money for Israel and Taiwan. “On the Ukraine question, in particular, everybody with a brain in their head knows this was always going to end in negotiation,” Mr. Vance said. “The idea that Ukraine was going to throw Russia back to the 1991 border was preposterous. Nobody actually believed it.”

What we’re saying to the president, and really to the entire world, is ‘You need to articulate what the ambition is. What is $61 billion going to accomplish that $100 billion hasn’t?’” he added.


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs
KEYWORDS: appeasement; land4peace; war
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Have to cede some territory ? Yeah, how about everything East of the Dniepner? It is mostly ethnic Russian, they hate them anyway.

The Fat Lady is beginning to sing, and it ain’t Glory to Ukraine.

1 posted on 12/11/2023 4:51:35 PM PST by delta7
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To: delta7

How does an American congress critter get to dictate Ukraine’s policy on its defense? And coming from a “Conservative” who rehjects the U.N. or any foreign country dictating U.S. defense policy that’s pretty rich.


2 posted on 12/11/2023 4:54:50 PM PST by Wuli
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To: delta7

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3 posted on 12/11/2023 4:55:01 PM PST by griswold3 (Truth, Beauty and Goodness. )
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To: delta7

Recognition of REALITY.

NO MORE AMERICAN TAXPAYER MONEY TO UKRAINE!


4 posted on 12/11/2023 4:56:54 PM PST by House Atreides (I’m now ULTRA-MAGA. -PRO-MAo p)
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To: delta7

I’d like to cede a half-dozen Zeepers.


5 posted on 12/11/2023 4:57:43 PM PST by JonPreston ( ✌ ☮️ )
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To: delta7

Take the “L” and beg for terms… the longer they pretend the more land they lose. At this rate Odessa will fall next.


6 posted on 12/11/2023 4:57:54 PM PST by CapandBall
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To: delta7

What a snivveling wussy for a Senator, Ukraine can WIN, just Sponsor Legislation Conscripting the Blood Relative between the age of 17-35 Of Every current and former Federal Employee under the Executive branch, give them 2 weeks training and send them Straight to the Front Lines in Ukraine. The WAR will end almost immediately.


7 posted on 12/11/2023 4:58:22 PM PST by eyeamok
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To: Wuli

Because the congress critters have been funding it all with our funding?


8 posted on 12/11/2023 5:00:53 PM PST by 9YearLurker
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The war should never have happened and now the Ukraine is destroyed and will probably never recover.


9 posted on 12/11/2023 5:01:18 PM PST by escapefromboston (Peace, commerce and honest friendship with all nations, entangling alliances with none.)
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How does an American congress critter get to dictate Ukraine’s policy on its defense?

That's question you should have asked when Boris Johnson and the Biden regime killed a peace deal Ukraine had worked out with Russia in March of last year.

This idea Ukraine has ever been in charge of making its own decisions in this proxy war is lunacy. This has been a NATO proxy war against Russia from the start.

10 posted on 12/11/2023 5:02:30 PM PST by Kazan
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To: eyeamok

He’s my Senator. I voted from him. He’s putting America first and representing his constituents. Don’t like it? Became a Democrat and stay the hell out of my state.


11 posted on 12/11/2023 5:04:08 PM PST by Kazan
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To: delta7

Little Vloddy is angered.


12 posted on 12/11/2023 5:05:05 PM PST by kiryandil (China Joe and Paycheck Hunter - the Chink in America's defenses)
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To: eyeamok
"Sponsor Legislation Conscripting the Blood Relative between the age of 17-35 Of Every current and former Federal Employee under the Executive branch, give them 2 weeks training and send them Straight to the Front Lines in Ukraine."

Yeah, I can get behind that.. :)

13 posted on 12/11/2023 5:08:51 PM PST by unread (I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America, and to the REPUBLIC..!)
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To: delta7
Ukraine should have done that 2 years ago and saved alot of Ukrainian lives.


14 posted on 12/11/2023 5:12:18 PM PST by McGruff (Don't underestimate Joe's ability to f*** things up - Barack Obama)
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To: delta7

The left will fight for globohomo to the last Ukrainian.


15 posted on 12/11/2023 5:12:58 PM PST by nonliberal (Z.)
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To: Kazan

Let’s just send only DEMOCRATS to Ukraine. If they live, they will be heroes of Ukraine. If they die, NO GREAT LOSS!!!


16 posted on 12/11/2023 5:13:07 PM PST by OHPatriot (Si vis pacem, para bellum)
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If think Ukraine has any chance after five-month failed counteroffensive that cost 100,000 Ukrainian lives, you're a deluded, dangerous fool.

The average age of the Ukrainian solider is now 43. Women are being sent to the frontline.

People like you are dangerous.

17 posted on 12/11/2023 5:13:11 PM PST by Kazan
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To: OHPatriot

Good idea!


18 posted on 12/11/2023 5:14:06 PM PST by Kazan
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To: JonPreston; BroJoeK; Allegra; cabojoe; Kazan; delta7; Rocco DiPippo; House Atreides; Mariner
I’d like to cede a half-dozen Zeepers.

Switzerland is out of our country's jurisdiction, Jon.

19 posted on 12/11/2023 5:16:00 PM PST by kiryandil (China Joe and Paycheck Hunter - the Chink in America's defenses)
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To: Kazan

That’s question you should have ask”ed when Boris Johnson and the Biden regime killed a peace deal Ukraine had worked out with Russia in March of last year.”

That old tale again.


20 posted on 12/11/2023 5:16:12 PM PST by Wuli
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