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Col. Richard Kemp: IDF kills fewer civilians per combatant than most other armies
Israel National News ^ | 12/7/2023 | INN Staff

Posted on 12/07/2023 3:21:18 PM PST by Uncle Miltie

Former commander of British forces in Afghanistan praises 2:1 civilian to combatant death ratio in Gaza compared to other wars.

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In a video published to X, Col. Kemp spoke of the reported death tolls in Gaza, where Israeli sources have anonymously said that 5,000 Hamas terrorists have been killed out of a death toll of about 15,000, a ratio of one combatant casualty for every two civilians.

"Civilian casualties in combat are always devastating and tragic. But unfortunately, they're a feature of almost every war," Col. Kemp said. "Many times, I have seen the horror of civilian casualties despite the immense efforts the British army and our allied armies take to avoid them."

"The UN estimates that the civilian-to-combatant death ratio in conflicts since the Second World War averages nine to one. That is a shocking nine civilians killed for every combatant. That figure reflects the fact that it includes armies that have no regard for civilians. For example: The Syrian army, the Russian army, and the armies of other dictatorships," he said.

"In Iraq, estimates suggest US forces killed three civilians for every combatant. And in Afghanistan, between three and five to one.

"In previous conflicts in Gaza, the IDF has achieved a significantly more favorable casualty ratio, generally between 0.6 to one and two to one. It's still awful, but much better than most, if not all other armies engaged in combat," he said.

Col. Kemp pointed out that the IDF has managed to achieve these historically low combat ratios "despite the reality that Hamas fights from within the civilian population, use human shields, and deliberately try to force the IDF to kill as many of their civilians as possible. This is so the world turns on Israel and falsely condemns it for war crimes."

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TOPICS: Extended News; Foreign Affairs; Israel; War on Terror
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Civilian casualties are primarily ham ass's war crime, since they violate the Geneva Convention and use civilians as human shields, as documented by the U.N. here:

UN report outlines how Hamas used kids as human shields

https://cufi.org/issue/un-report-outlines-how-hamas-used-kids-as-human-shields/

1 posted on 12/07/2023 3:21:18 PM PST by Uncle Miltie
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To: Uncle Miltie

“Col. Richard Kemp: IDF kills fewer civilians per combatant than most other armies”

Screw that...just tell them to F-O and that Israel will fight as they see fit (and hint, that DOES NOT include needlessly harming civilians).


2 posted on 12/07/2023 3:24:59 PM PST by BobL (I eat at McDonald's and shop at Walmart, I just don't tell anyone)
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To: BobL

Why are you going against your hero?


3 posted on 12/07/2023 3:26:49 PM PST by nickcarraway
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To: nickcarraway

“Why are you going against your hero?”

What does Zelensky have to do with this?


4 posted on 12/07/2023 3:28:33 PM PST by BobL (I eat at McDonald's and shop at Walmart, I just don't tell anyone)
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To: BobL

Nothing.


5 posted on 12/07/2023 3:29:31 PM PST by nickcarraway
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To: Uncle Miltie

Its war,maybe next time (and their will be a next time) muzzies will try a different approach? I hope Israel runs all of them into the neighboring countries and shows NO MERCY. Been watching this garbage since the 60’s...kill all the islamic that you can find.


6 posted on 12/07/2023 3:31:09 PM PST by mythenjoseph (Islam has NO place in a Christian society.)
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To: nickcarraway

Exactly.


7 posted on 12/07/2023 3:31:53 PM PST by BobL (I eat at McDonald's and shop at Walmart, I just don't tell anyone)
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To: Uncle Miltie

A Middle East policy expert I saw interviewed about a month ago said the most efficient and least costly to Israel in terms of IDF losses would be a crushing overhwelming military advance against Hamas. But he said Israel always inhibits its military and deliberately takes casualties in situations to avoid too many civilians dying in raids. But gets no credit for that from the world.

He cited good methods of Putin a few years ago in the 2nd Chechan War (60,000 dead) and Chinese killing Muslims in China.

Some great info. about the Chinese:
(Maybe give this to Dem voting people, especially naive young ones, at Christmas vacation time.)

Since 2017, between 800,000-2,000,000 million Uyghurs have been held in Xinjiang’s concentration prisons, commonly referred to as “re-education camps.” Uyghurs are forced to participate in CCP indoctrination programs in which detainees are forced to abandon their Muslim faith and culture. The CCP forbids use of the Uyghur language and imposes Mandarin Chinese within these camps. Inside camps, CCP officials subject Uyghurs to physical beatings, sexual assault, and gang rapes of women.

The Chinese government’s family planning program restricts Uyghur and Turkic Muslim reproduction, preventing births in violation of Article 2d of the Genocide Convention. According to Adrian Zenz, between 2015 and 2018, East Turkistan’s Uyghur population growth rate fell by 84%. State-sponsored forced inter-racial marriages between Uyghur women and Han Chinese men are part of “family planning” policies, as are female sterilizations, forced abortions, mass rapes, and sexual torture. The CCP forces Uyghur women to live with Han Chinese men in Uyghur homes. The CCP forcibly removes Uyghur children from their homes and places them in residential schools where they are forbidden to speak the Uyghur language, a violation of Genocide Convention Article 2e.

After “reeducation,” Uyghurs are forced to work harvesting cotton and other Chinese export products. They are subjected to a modern form of slavery. The CCP’s direct attack on Uyghur Muslim religion now includes destruction of Uyghur mosques.
From:https://www.genocidewatch.com/single-post/chinese-genocide-of-uyghurs-in-xinjiang-continues


8 posted on 12/07/2023 3:34:40 PM PST by frank ballenger (There's a battle outside and it's raging.It'll soon shake your windows and rattle your walls.)
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To: BobL
IDF kills fewer civilians per combatant than most other armies

And at the other end of the scale ... Russia


9 posted on 12/07/2023 5:53:37 PM PST by canuck_conservative (NATO - keeping Europe free of Russian invaders for 74 years - you're welcome!)
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To: Uncle Miltie
The religious Jews take very seriously the sanctity of human life. In Judaism, killing is a sin, even if it's justified, so even killing with justification is bad enough, what they don't want is to have it escalate to murder by including killings that weren't justified.

In most cases, killing can be justified if the threat to life is imminent. In America we would say, "Yeah, Osama's bound to try it again, so let's kill him." But in Israel, the argument becomes a hair-splitting contest over whether the threat is imminent. And there's always some Rabbi who'll argue "He might still have a change of heart if we wait just a little longer."

10 posted on 12/07/2023 6:04:12 PM PST by Paal Gulli
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To: canuck_conservative

“And at the other end of the scale ... Russia”

Link please.


11 posted on 12/07/2023 6:39:20 PM PST by BobL (I eat at McDonald's and shop at Walmart, I just don't tell anyone)
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To: BobL

Have you forgotten what Russia did in Ukraine last fall?

Deliberately launching hundreds of kinetic missiles against apartment buildings, schools, playgrounds, and shopping centers ...

None of those is a military target, Bob


12 posted on 12/07/2023 6:46:26 PM PST by canuck_conservative (NATO - keeping Europe free of Russian invaders for 74 years - you're welcome!)
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To: canuck_conservative

“Have you forgotten what Russia did in Ukraine last fall?”

No link. That’s ok, we all make mistakes once in a while.


13 posted on 12/07/2023 6:54:43 PM PST by BobL (I eat at McDonald's and shop at Walmart, I just don't tell anyone)
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To: BobL

I’m not you’re personal slave

Get off your lazy ass and stop asking others to babysit you


14 posted on 12/07/2023 6:59:55 PM PST by canuck_conservative (NATO - keeping Europe free of Russian invaders for 74 years - you're welcome!)
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To: canuck_conservative

“Get off your lazy ass and stop asking others to babysit you”

It’s ok, you don’t have a link, only emotion - we understand.


15 posted on 12/07/2023 7:04:44 PM PST by BobL (I eat at McDonald's and shop at Walmart, I just don't tell anyone)
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