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End the Ukraine fiasco now
Flopping Aces ^ | 12-06-23 | DrJohn

Posted on 12/07/2023 7:37:41 AM PST by Starman417

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1 posted on 12/07/2023 7:37:41 AM PST by Starman417
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But someone wants this war.

His name is Vladimir Putin, Dictator of Russia. He can end the war he started any time he wants to by the simple expedient of withdrawing his army from the foreign country he ordered it to invade. Clearly, he doesn't want to do that ... so he wants this war.

Thank you for the opportunity to cut through all the bullshit.

2 posted on 12/07/2023 7:40:16 AM PST by NorthMountain (... the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed)
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Ah, yes, the old “domino” theory that commie LBJ and Mcnamara used to justify the insanity in Vietnam.

“If [Vladimir] Putin takes over Ukraine, he’ll get Moldova, Georgia, then maybe the Baltics,” House Foreign Affairs Chairman Michael McCaul (R-TX) told The Messenger, after Austin and other senior Biden administration officials briefed House lawmakers on their request for more aid for Ukraine.


3 posted on 12/07/2023 7:47:17 AM PST by imabadboy99
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To: NorthMountain

“He can end the war he started any time he wants to by the simple expedient of withdrawing his army”

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That’s such a BS statement...you look like an idiot for saying it.


4 posted on 12/07/2023 7:49:59 AM PST by jacknhoo (Luke 12:51; Think ye, that I am come to give peace on earth? I tell you, no; but separation.)
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To: NorthMountain

On January 19th of 2022, the retarded president of the United States publicly stated that the U.S. was perfectly OK with a Russian invasion of Ukraine.


5 posted on 12/07/2023 7:51:02 AM PST by Alberta's Child (If something in government doesn’t make sense, you can be sure it makes dollars.)
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It’s time for Russia and China to admit that the US Treasury has the fastest printing press in the world. The two of them don’t stand a chance.


6 posted on 12/07/2023 7:51:50 AM PST by packagingguy
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To: NorthMountain

Please do tell us again how well the ‘Great Summer Offensive’ is going.....

Facts don’t matter to propagandizing, leftist Zeepers.


7 posted on 12/07/2023 7:53:35 AM PST by wildcard_redneck (He who sacrifices freedom for security deserves neither.)
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To: Starman417

Some people cannot separate bad means and methods put to a policy - defending Ukraine - from the right or wrong of the basic policy idea.

What has gone wrong with helping to defend Ukraine was not that we should not help defend Ukraine, but that (a) we - Biden and NATO - had no precise plan about how to do that effectively, and (b) then “aid” was given in dribs and drabs and always reactively, as if, as noted in (a) they had no plan for how to do it in the first place.

Yes, I criticize how the Biden administration and NATO has managed U.S. aid to Ukraine, and how their bad handling of things has hurt the cause of aiding Ukraine.

I do not fault the idea that, yes, the west should help defend Ukraine.

If someone thinks Ukraine should just be defending itself 100%, then knowing the facts about comparisons of Russian versus Ukraine military resources that someone is really just suggesting Ukraine should just let itself be conqured and annexed by Russia.


8 posted on 12/07/2023 7:54:35 AM PST by Wuli ( ,)
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The author does not understand the CAUSE of this war. This is a war between central banking systems - US Dollar vs BRICs. Currently, the BRICs strategy has failed to achieve their goal which was to use the threat of Ukraine energy to control / manipulate the EU.

In any conflict there are three possible outcomes. Winner A, Winner B, stalemate.

In this scenario, stalemate works in the favor of NATO / EU as it drains resources from Russia. Resources that Russia would have used to bully NATO. It also buys time for the EU nations to sort out and fix their energy issues.


9 posted on 12/07/2023 7:54:48 AM PST by taxcontrol (The choice is clear - either live as a slave on your knees or die as a free citizen on your feet.)
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Putin doesn’t need to do anything, I can END this WAR in 2 weeks time, GUARANTEED:

Conscript the blood relative between the age of 17-35 of every employee in the Executive Branch and all agencies under it, Give them 2 weeks Training then send them straight to the Front Lines in Ukraine.

The war will end the first day they begin arriving.


10 posted on 12/07/2023 7:57:10 AM PST by eyeamok
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It’s unfortunate that you can’t handle the truth.


11 posted on 12/07/2023 7:58:44 AM PST by NorthMountain (... the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed)
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Slowpoke.

Vlad can end the war with one order: “Withdraw all forces from Ukraine.”

It’s the simple truth ... too bad many people are blind to it.


12 posted on 12/07/2023 8:00:28 AM PST by NorthMountain (... the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed)
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They could sent a few thousand troops over here to patrol our souther border...payback.


13 posted on 12/07/2023 8:01:27 AM PST by bigbob
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“Back in August, Joe Biden sent $250 million to Ukraine”

Not a penny of that money was transferred to a Ukrainian controlled account. The money was sent to banks in NYC to use for buying supplies and where did it go?


14 posted on 12/07/2023 8:01:45 AM PST by MeganC (There is nothing feminine about feminism. )
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There is growing panic in Kyiv
<><>as the expected billions from the US and the EU dry up
<><>and Ukranian insiders’ plans for money laundering is in doubt.
<><>plus The Biden Crime Family is also pissed.


Biden weighs in......spit.

Only a hardened America hater would say something this heinous.......”if we dont dump pallets of tax dollars over there, Putin takes Ukraine, and he won’t stop there,” dimwit Biden warned. “We’ll have what we don’t have today: American troops fighting Russian troops.”

This flea-bitten bag of bones has absolutely no concern for America’s
interests whatsoever.....and his contempt for our fighting men is an abomination.


15 posted on 12/07/2023 8:15:03 AM PST by Liz (Women have tremendous power — their femininity, because men can't do without it. Sidney Sheldon)
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I wholeheartedly support the position of not another penny for Ukraine until our borders are secure.

NO ONE should accept that. Not another penny for the failed proxy war in Ukraine, PERIOD.

Allowing the political class and their cronies to laundering $60 billion more is outrageous. They are only closing the borders now because they have imported 10 million more slaves to work for their corporate cronies.

16 posted on 12/07/2023 8:15:08 AM PST by Kazan
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Reopen keystone and restart fracking and this all goes away within a week.


17 posted on 12/07/2023 8:17:15 AM PST by EQAndyBuzz (I AM A ZIONIST HOODLUM!)
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To: NorthMountain

Nah, it’s the western globohomopedos that have wanted this war.


18 posted on 12/07/2023 8:19:58 AM PST by aMorePerfectUnion (I didn't come here to guide lambs, but to awaken lions 🦅 MAGADONIAN ⚔️)
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To: Starman417
Russia is already quite weak and has lost a great many of its military, some estimates say 300,000. Ukraine has lost 70,000 troops with another 120,000 wounded.

Only imbecile believe that propaganda. Russia has consistently had an 8-1 advantage in ammo fire and control of the air space.

The real numbers are about 500,000 causalities on the Ukraine side and 50,000 regular Russian military causalities (that excluding causalities of Wagner, Chechens, DPR and LPR).

19 posted on 12/07/2023 8:20:22 AM PST by Kazan
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Thank you for the opportunity to cut through all the bullshit.

Surly you don't expect him to stand by and let Washington and London, with Zelensky as their proxy, slaughter ethnic Russian women and children in the East? Besides Your Biden, can you think of another leader would do that?

20 posted on 12/07/2023 8:21:18 AM PST by JonPreston ( ✌ ☮️ )
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