Posted on 12/07/2023 7:37:41 AM PST by Starman417
It's time. Actually, it's past time.
Back in August, Joe Biden sent $250 million to Ukraine for its highly touted counter offensive against Russia. This was supposed to be the turning point in the conflict.
It wasn't. Finally, the realization that many of us had long ago has hit home.
The meeting in Brussels, less than two weeks into the campaign, illustrates how a counteroffensive born in optimism has failed to deliver its expected punch, generating friction and second-guessing between Washington and Kyiv and raising deeper questions about Ukraine’s ability to retake decisive amounts of territory.
As winter approaches, and the front lines freeze into place, Ukraine’s most senior military officials acknowledge that the war has reached a stalemate.
Ukraine’s President Volodymyr Zelensky had admitted his counter-offensive has failed, and the war is now in a “new phase”.“We wanted faster results,” the Ukrainian leader said. “From that perspective, unfortunately, we did not achieve the desired results. And this is a fact,” he conceded.
NATO Secretary-General Jens Stoltenberg warned there could be bad news coming out about Ukraine, as fears grow of a stalemate with Russia and allies such as the U.S. debate whether to send more aid to the country.
“Wars develop in phases. We have to support Ukraine in both good and bad times. We should also be prepared for bad news,” Stoltenberg said in an interview with German broadcaster ARD on Saturday, according to Politico Europe.
Last month it was reported that the US and Germany were trying to nudge Zelenskyy to the negotiating table.
The United States and Germany want to push Ukraine toward the negotiating table to end the war with Russia, the German tabloid paper Bild reported on Friday, citing anonymous sources.This month it was reported that Russia offered Ukraine peace if it remained neutral.The paper said that President Joe Biden and German Chancellor Olaf Scholz allegedly do not plan to directly put pressure on Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskyy, but instead plan to use the provision of arms to encourage a settlement.
Ukraine is running out of soldiers to feed into the chopper. Young men are fleeing the country and men aged 18-60 are banned from leaving the country.
You will remember that Obama didn't blink an eye when Russia annexed Crimea and when Biden said he'd tolerate a "minor incursion" into Ukraine by Russia.
The area being fought over now is complicated.
"Those two regions have a lot of people who are not just Russian citizens, but also sympathetic to Russia still, unlike most of the country," said ABC News contributor Steve Ganyard, a retired U.S. Marine colonel and former deputy assistant secretary of state. "So the reason that the Russians were able to sort of maintain puppet governments there is that they had people who are sympathetic to Russia and to their cause."The logical thing is to negotiate. But no. The "If you oppose supporting the war in Ukraine you support Putin" thing isn't working any more so they're getting down deep into the mud. So of course, the Biden regime wants more war and now as support for pouring endless unaccountable money into Ukraine wanes, has begun to threaten Americans. Lloyd Austin warns that Putin would invade NATO nations.
The disgrace known as John Kirby echoed the same.Defense Secretary Lloyd Austin warned Congress on Tuesday during a private briefing that if they do not pass more aid to Ukraine, it would “very likely” lead to U.S. troops fighting a war in Europe.
“If [Vladimir] Putin takes over Ukraine, he’ll get Moldova, Georgia, then maybe the Baltics,” House Foreign Affairs Chairman Michael McCaul (R-TX) told The Messenger, after Austin and other senior Biden administration officials briefed House lawmakers on their request for more aid for Ukraine.
"If you think the cost of supporting Ukraine is high now, just imagine how much higher it's gonna be, not just in national treasure but in American blood!"This is utter nonsense. NATO is NATO. Putin isn't about to take it on. Russia is already quite weak and has lost a great many of its military, some estimates say 300,000. Ukraine has lost 70,000 troops with another 120,000 wounded.
But someone wants this war. They want it badly. We're likely minting more billionaires among the $113 billion we're sent. What really grates me is that Biden and his democrat ilk are more concerned about Ukraine's borders than our own. I wholeheartedly support the position of not another penny for Ukraine until our borders are secure.
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His name is Vladimir Putin, Dictator of Russia. He can end the war he started any time he wants to by the simple expedient of withdrawing his army from the foreign country he ordered it to invade. Clearly, he doesn't want to do that ... so he wants this war.
Thank you for the opportunity to cut through all the bullshit.
Ah, yes, the old “domino” theory that commie LBJ and Mcnamara used to justify the insanity in Vietnam.
“If [Vladimir] Putin takes over Ukraine, he’ll get Moldova, Georgia, then maybe the Baltics,” House Foreign Affairs Chairman Michael McCaul (R-TX) told The Messenger, after Austin and other senior Biden administration officials briefed House lawmakers on their request for more aid for Ukraine.
“He can end the war he started any time he wants to by the simple expedient of withdrawing his army”
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That’s such a BS statement...you look like an idiot for saying it.
On January 19th of 2022, the retarded president of the United States publicly stated that the U.S. was perfectly OK with a Russian invasion of Ukraine.
It’s time for Russia and China to admit that the US Treasury has the fastest printing press in the world. The two of them don’t stand a chance.
Please do tell us again how well the ‘Great Summer Offensive’ is going.....
Facts don’t matter to propagandizing, leftist Zeepers.
Some people cannot separate bad means and methods put to a policy - defending Ukraine - from the right or wrong of the basic policy idea.
What has gone wrong with helping to defend Ukraine was not that we should not help defend Ukraine, but that (a) we - Biden and NATO - had no precise plan about how to do that effectively, and (b) then “aid” was given in dribs and drabs and always reactively, as if, as noted in (a) they had no plan for how to do it in the first place.
Yes, I criticize how the Biden administration and NATO has managed U.S. aid to Ukraine, and how their bad handling of things has hurt the cause of aiding Ukraine.
I do not fault the idea that, yes, the west should help defend Ukraine.
If someone thinks Ukraine should just be defending itself 100%, then knowing the facts about comparisons of Russian versus Ukraine military resources that someone is really just suggesting Ukraine should just let itself be conqured and annexed by Russia.
The author does not understand the CAUSE of this war. This is a war between central banking systems - US Dollar vs BRICs. Currently, the BRICs strategy has failed to achieve their goal which was to use the threat of Ukraine energy to control / manipulate the EU.
In any conflict there are three possible outcomes. Winner A, Winner B, stalemate.
In this scenario, stalemate works in the favor of NATO / EU as it drains resources from Russia. Resources that Russia would have used to bully NATO. It also buys time for the EU nations to sort out and fix their energy issues.
Putin doesn’t need to do anything, I can END this WAR in 2 weeks time, GUARANTEED:
Conscript the blood relative between the age of 17-35 of every employee in the Executive Branch and all agencies under it, Give them 2 weeks Training then send them straight to the Front Lines in Ukraine.
The war will end the first day they begin arriving.
It’s unfortunate that you can’t handle the truth.
Slowpoke.
Vlad can end the war with one order: “Withdraw all forces from Ukraine.”
It’s the simple truth ... too bad many people are blind to it.
They could sent a few thousand troops over here to patrol our souther border...payback.
“Back in August, Joe Biden sent $250 million to Ukraine”
Not a penny of that money was transferred to a Ukrainian controlled account. The money was sent to banks in NYC to use for buying supplies and where did it go?
There is growing panic in Kyiv
<><>as the expected billions from the US and the EU dry up
<><>and Ukranian insiders’ plans for money laundering is in doubt.
<><>plus The Biden Crime Family is also pissed.
Biden weighs in......spit.
Only a hardened America hater would say something this heinous.......”if we dont dump pallets of tax dollars over there, Putin takes Ukraine, and he won’t stop there,” dimwit Biden warned. “We’ll have what we don’t have today: American troops fighting Russian troops.”
This flea-bitten bag of bones has absolutely no concern for America’s
interests whatsoever.....and his contempt for our fighting men is an abomination.
NO ONE should accept that. Not another penny for the failed proxy war in Ukraine, PERIOD.
Allowing the political class and their cronies to laundering $60 billion more is outrageous. They are only closing the borders now because they have imported 10 million more slaves to work for their corporate cronies.
Reopen keystone and restart fracking and this all goes away within a week.
Nah, it’s the western globohomopedos that have wanted this war.
Only imbecile believe that propaganda. Russia has consistently had an 8-1 advantage in ammo fire and control of the air space.
The real numbers are about 500,000 causalities on the Ukraine side and 50,000 regular Russian military causalities (that excluding causalities of Wagner, Chechens, DPR and LPR).
Surly you don't expect him to stand by and let Washington and London, with Zelensky as their proxy, slaughter ethnic Russian women and children in the East? Besides Your Biden, can you think of another leader would do that?
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