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Ukraine and its supporters need to prepare for a return of Trump
WAPO ^ | 12/5/23 | Josh Rogin

Posted on 12/05/2023 2:35:11 PM PST by DeathBeforeDishonor1

f Donald Trump returns to the presidency and tries to halt or drastically reduce U.S. military, economic and humanitarian support to Ukraine — as he has indicated he would — Ukraine would not be the only country to suffer. Russia’s likely resulting gains in the conflict would further destabilize Europe and undermine U.S. credibility worldwide. Work must be done before the 2024 election to put Ukraine in the best possible position to endure whatever a newly elected Trump might do.

The Biden White House is already warning Congress that if it doesn’t authorize more Ukraine aid soon, the spigot will run dry by year’s end. But even if the United States continues to fund Ukraine’s war effort until the end of next year, the money would be running out just as the next Congress and perhaps a new administration commence.

Trump, the leading Republican presidential candidate, has declined to commit to continuing military assistance for Ukraine, and has said he will simply solve the conflict “in 24 hours.” His GOP allies consistently amplify Russian propaganda against Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky. And Trump has refused Zelensky’s invitation to Kyiv.

In a second term, Trump could pull the United States out of NATO, or at least out of the Ukraine Defense Contact Group, the more than 50-nation coalition Washington leads. While NATO leaders don’t want to get involved in U.S. politics, several told me they are gravely concerned about Trump’s possible abandonment of the Ukraine aid effort.

(Excerpt) Read more at washingtonpost.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Miscellaneous
KEYWORDS: neoconsvotedbiden; ruzzia; ruzzians; time2cleanhouse; ukraine; ussr
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The Washington Post?
1 posted on 12/05/2023 2:35:11 PM PST by DeathBeforeDishonor1
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To: DeathBeforeDishonor1

I’ve been expecting this.
Look for the MSM to start putting pressure on Biden to get him out.


2 posted on 12/05/2023 2:36:57 PM PST by Zathras
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To: DeathBeforeDishonor1

Trump will not be in office for another 14 months. I’m pretty sure there will be nothing left of Ukraine by then in any case.


3 posted on 12/05/2023 2:37:01 PM PST by MNDude
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To: DeathBeforeDishonor1

Boo hoo MIC scum.


4 posted on 12/05/2023 2:39:14 PM PST by Seruzawa ("The Political left is the Garden of Eden of incompetence" - Marx the Smarter (Groucho))
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To: DeathBeforeDishonor1

Trump is not going to withdraw from NATO as stated in the article.

And he’s not going to give Russia a victory. He will demand that both sides cease and desist.


5 posted on 12/05/2023 2:39:29 PM PST by Williams (Stop Tolerating The Intolerant)
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To: DeathBeforeDishonor1

Well... Trump might become a true Ukraine supporter once again if he is reelected.

Why do I say that?

Because:

Here are 40 points the Trump Administration did in support for Ukraine and undermining an aggressive Russia:

Arming Ukraine: The U.S. provided lethal military aid, including Javelin anti-tank missiles, to support Ukraine in countering Russian-backed separatists.

Rejection of Russia’s Annexation of Crimea: Trump’s administration consistently rejected Russia’s annexation of Crimea and supported Ukraine’s territorial integrity.

Support for European Allies: The Trump administration reaffirmed its commitment to supporting Eastern European countries against potential Russian aggression.

Withdrawal from INF Treaty: The U.S. under Trump officially withdrew from the INF Treaty, citing Russia’s violations.

Imposition of Sanctions: The Trump administration imposed several rounds of sanctions on Russia for actions like election interference, annexation of Crimea, and human rights abuses.

Expulsion of Russian Diplomats: In response to the Skripal poisoning in the UK, the U.S. expelled 60 Russian diplomats and closed the Russian consulate in Seattle.

Increased NATO Military Spending: Trump pressured NATO allies to increase defense spending to enhance the alliance’s capabilities against potential Russian aggression.

Condemnation of Nord Stream 2: Trump criticized the Nord Stream 2 gas pipeline project between Russia and Germany, expressing concerns over energy dependence and geopolitical leverage.

Accusations of Russian Cyberattacks: Trump’s administration publicly accused Russia of cyberattacks, including election interference and targeting critical infrastructure.

Suspension of INF Treaty Compliance: Before formally withdrawing from the INF Treaty, the U.S. suspended obligations under the treaty in response to Russia’s alleged violations.

Support for the Three Seas Initiative: The Trump administration expressed support for the Three Seas Initiative, promoting cooperation among Central and Eastern European countries to reduce dependence on Russian energy.

Presence in the Black Sea: The U.S. increased its naval presence in the Black Sea region to support allies and counter potential Russian aggression.

Magnitsky Act Enforcement: The Trump administration continued to enforce the Magnitsky Act, imposing sanctions on Russian officials accused of human rights abuses and corruption.

Expansion of U.S. Liquefied Natural Gas Exports: Trump aimed to increase U.S. LNG exports to Europe to decrease European reliance on Russian gas.

Sanctions on Russian Oligarchs: The U.S. imposed sanctions on Russian oligarchs with close ties to the Kremlin.

Support for Georgia and Moldova: The Trump administration reaffirmed support for Georgia and Moldova’s sovereignty and territorial integrity.

U.S. Cyber Command Actions: The U.S. Cyber Command took actions to disrupt Russian cyber operations.

Energy Diplomacy in Eastern Europe: Trump pursued energy diplomacy to promote energy diversification in Eastern Europe, reducing reliance on Russian gas.

U.S. Troop Deployment to Poland: The U.S. announced the deployment of 1,000 troops to Poland to counter Russian aggression.

Opposition to Russia’s Syria Policy: The U.S. opposed Russia’s military intervention in Syria and supported the opposition to President Bashar al-Assad.

Russian Private Military Companies Sanctions: The U.S. imposed sanctions on Russian private military companies, including Wagner Group.

Support for Belarusian Democracy: The Trump administration supported pro-democracy efforts in Belarus following disputed elections and protests.

Sanctions on Russian Banks: The U.S. imposed sanctions on Russian banks, including Sberbank and VTB Bank, for their roles in supporting Russian actions.

Export Controls on Technology: The U.S. tightened export controls on certain technology items to prevent their use in Russia’s military and intelligence activities.

Increased Military Aid to Eastern European Allies: The U.S. increased military aid and training to Eastern European countries, enhancing their defense capabilities.

Opposition to Russia’s Annexation of South Ossetia: The Trump administration opposed Russia’s recognition of South Ossetia’s independence from Georgia.

Support for Montenegro’s NATO Membership: The Trump administration supported Montenegro’s accession to NATO, despite Russian opposition.

Criticism of Russia’s Nuclear Weapons Development: Trump criticized Russia’s development of new nuclear weapons and delivery systems.

Support for Ukraine’s Reforms: The U.S. supported Ukraine’s reform efforts and anti-corruption measures.

Expanding the Black Sea Maritime Security Initiative: The U.S. expanded the initiative to enhance security cooperation among Black Sea countries.

Opposition to Russia’s Actions in Venezuela: The U.S. opposed Russia’s support for Venezuelan President Nicolás Maduro during the political crisis.

U.S. Embassy Move in Israel: While not directly related to Russia, Trump’s decision to move the U.S. embassy in Israel to Jerusalem drew criticism from Russia and other countries.

Strengthening U.S. Cyber Defenses: The Trump administration worked to improve U.S. cybersecurity to counter potential Russian cyber threats.

U.S. Support for International Organizations: The U.S. supported international organizations that took actions against Russia, such as the UN and OPCW.

Criticism of Russia’s Intervention in Ukraine’s Presidential Elections: The U.S. condemned Russia’s interference in Ukraine’s elections.

Sanctions on Russian Intelligence Officers: The U.S. imposed sanctions on Russian intelligence officers involved in cyberattacks.

Refusal to Recognize Abkhazia’s Independence: The Trump administration did not recognize Abkhazia as an independent state, aligning with Georgia’s position.

Support for Kosovo-Serbia Dialogue: The U.S. supported the dialogue between Kosovo and Serbia, which Russia opposed due to its close ties with Serbia.

Support for Eastern Partnership Countries: The Trump administration supported the Eastern Partnership countries’ sovereignty and territorial integrity in the face of Russian pressure.


6 posted on 12/05/2023 2:40:38 PM PST by USA-FRANCE
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To: DeathBeforeDishonor1

Except all the money in the world isn’t any good if your entire population is gone. There simply are no more Ukrainian men left in Ukraine to through into the deep state’s worthless meat grinder.


7 posted on 12/05/2023 2:42:20 PM PST by Obadiah
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To: DeathBeforeDishonor1

The Washington Post


8 posted on 12/05/2023 2:45:52 PM PST by Texas Fossil (Texas is not about where you were born, but a Free State of Heart, Mind and Attitude.)
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To: DeathBeforeDishonor1

Because everything has gone so fantastically well for Ukrainians under Biden?


9 posted on 12/05/2023 2:51:08 PM PST by PGR88
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To: DeathBeforeDishonor1

So the author is admitting bi-sh*t’s policies “...destabilize Europe and undermine U.S. credibility worldwide” since PDJT would only make it ‘worse’.

Not a good argument, dude.

Particularly since we already know the peace and prosperity we enjoyed during PDJT’s presidency from ‘16-’20. It’s not speculation anymore, now is it?


10 posted on 12/05/2023 2:51:50 PM PST by TonyinLA (I don't have sufficient information to formulate a reasoned opinion said no lefty ever.)
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To: Williams

How does it feel to have been completely wrong about Ukraine 🇺🇦?


11 posted on 12/05/2023 2:52:24 PM PST by JonPreston ( ✌ ☮️ )
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To: DeathBeforeDishonor1

Oh please, the US hasn’t had any credibility since the election steal in 2020.

The US isn’t even credible to most Americans.


12 posted on 12/05/2023 2:53:18 PM PST by dforest
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To: DeathBeforeDishonor1

And yet another MSM story predicting President Trump will return to the White House.

Yes, they are definitely attempting to get Biden out of the race ASAP. They can see the writing on the wall, and are ready to prop up whoever else they believe can beat President Trump next year.


13 posted on 12/05/2023 2:54:07 PM PST by Pox (Eff You China. Buy American!)
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To: DeathBeforeDishonor1
President Trump will start his Second Term older and Very Much Wiser.

I believe the Uke Nazis will be very sorry, but not as sorry as the American Nazis.

14 posted on 12/05/2023 2:54:16 PM PST by Navy Patriot (Celebrate Decivilization)
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To: All

waiting for USMC momma to drop five threads on Ukraines winning a few meters and two trees in the last day


15 posted on 12/05/2023 2:55:00 PM PST by Karliner (Heb 4:12 Rom 8:28 Rev 3, "...This is the end of the beginning." Churchill)
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To: DeathBeforeDishonor1

More important for them, members of the deep state need to start buying property in countries with no extradition to the U.S.!


16 posted on 12/05/2023 2:55:21 PM PST by Highest Authority (DemonRats are pure EVIL)
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To: JonPreston; Williams

Williams thinks Russia will just up and leave because someone tells them to.

Trump is a negotiator and deal maker. He knows better than to think Russia would walk away with nothing.

Ukrainians helped Deep State betray Trump. They also participated in the melee on Jan 6th. Trump doesn’t forget those things.


17 posted on 12/05/2023 3:03:22 PM PST by dforest
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To: DeathBeforeDishonor1

Don’t be surprised if DJT wins and then gives the Ukrainians a few nukes since Ruzzia abrogated the agreement that denuclearized Ukraine.


18 posted on 12/05/2023 3:11:00 PM PST by MeganC (There is nothing feminine about feminism. )
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To: DeathBeforeDishonor1

MAGA oil ends Russian and Iranian aggression 15 months from now.


19 posted on 12/05/2023 3:14:23 PM PST by Freest Republican (This space for rent)
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To: DeathBeforeDishonor1; All

This is why only Trump can make the claim to solving a problem in 24hrs. They are already afraid of what he might do which already gives him leverage. His ambiguity on how he’ll solve the problem gives him a lot to work with. They’d probably figure it out “before Trump does something reckless”. That, for anyone paying attention, is the art of the deal.


20 posted on 12/05/2023 3:14:30 PM PST by wiseprince (Me)
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