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Ukraine requests U.S. give it 17 million shells, $400 billion for "deoccupation of Ukraine"
NEWS.am ^ | December 4, 2023 | Staff

Posted on 12/04/2023 9:46:24 AM PST by Trump20162020

During the visit of US Defense Secretary Lloyd Austin to Kyiv, he was informed that Ukraine needs 17 million shells, as well as 350-400 billion dollars of forces and resources in order to de-occupy the entire territory of the country, reports Ukrainska Pravda online newspaper.

"Calculations of the [Ukrainian] General Staff show that 350-400 billion dollars of forces and resources are needed to fulfill the task of liberating the entire territory of Ukraine. Some of the planning ideas were presented to Austin by the General Staff during his visit to Kyiv in November.

(Excerpt) Read more at news.am ...


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Government
KEYWORDS: debt; deficit; globalism; inflation; ukraine
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To: Allegra

Nice snow tires! :)


61 posted on 12/04/2023 11:20:37 AM PST by kiryandil (China Joe and Paycheck Hunter - the Chink in America's defenses)
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To: amnestynone

“and what do we get back in return?”

A more peaceful world with a ruthless aggressive dangerous superpower finally brought to it’s heal”

As a citizen of that ruthless superpower, I would prefer we just just putting ruthless neocons in power instead of being forced to heel from bankrupting ourselves.


62 posted on 12/04/2023 11:21:12 AM PST by MNDude
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To: Trump20162020
"deoccupation of Ukraine"

What is the unit of measurement for deoccupation of Ukraine? Negative square inches? How much do we pay per negative square inch?


63 posted on 12/04/2023 11:22:24 AM PST by woodpusher
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To: TheBattman
It is one of the biggest propaganda rags on the earth.

After The Spew Barf Slimes, The WhiteWashingHamas POSt, The Los Angeles Slimes, The Daily Fail, The Grauniad, and The Associated Hamas Press, among others.

64 posted on 12/04/2023 11:22:41 AM PST by kiryandil (China Joe and Paycheck Hunter - the Chink in America's defenses)
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To: kiryandil

This conversation is begging for some musical accompaniment.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=m6rF9clRixM


65 posted on 12/04/2023 11:32:00 AM PST by Allegra (Less propaganda would be appreciated. )
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To: Trump20162020

66 posted on 12/04/2023 11:40:23 AM PST by rfp1234 (E Porcibus Unum )
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To: amnestynone; bert; FtrPilot; Sunsong; MeganC
Lol!:
“NATO Secretary-General Jens Stoltenberg has warned that Western powers should be prepared for “bad news” from Ukraine in the wake of Kyiv’s failed “counter-offensive” against occupying Russian forces.”

Given how much Zeepers trust NATO l, how can they argue with NATO claiming that the counter offensive has failed?

67 posted on 12/04/2023 11:48:04 AM PST by wildcard_redneck (He who sacrifices freedom for security deserves neither.)
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To: Timber Rattler; Navy Patriot
Good catch...it’s a Russian State Media story, filtered through an online Armenian outlet.

It's anything but. See post #25.

68 posted on 12/04/2023 12:24:05 PM PST by Ultra Sonic 007 (There is nothing new under the sun.)
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To: BabaOreally

That is not enough.


69 posted on 12/04/2023 1:27:42 PM PST by DennisR (Look around - God gives countless clues that He does, indeed, exist .)
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To: kiryandil

😂😂😂


70 posted on 12/04/2023 1:32:13 PM PST by mac_truck (aide toi et dieu t'aidera)
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To: Ultra Sonic 007
Riggght....

About Agency

Armenia-based NEWS.am independent information- analytic agency is specialized in the production and spreading of information products. The main target group of the agency is individuals and organizations interested in obtaining timely and reliable information about the social, political and economic developments in Armenia and Nagorno-Karabakh, as well as Diaspora communities around the world. The agency also focuses on the topical events, problems, and trends in the South Caucasus region.

NEWS.am provides:


71 posted on 12/04/2023 1:34:01 PM PST by Timber Rattler ("To be prepared for war is one of the most effectual means of preserving peace." --George Washington)
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To: TheBattman
---- "The “source” is PRAVDA... don't let the URL or source title fool you - it is the Russian national media's page specifically about Ukraine. It is one of the biggest propaganda rags on the earth."

At the bottom of the cited web page, one reads:

"The copyright for information published on this web site is owned exclusively by Armenian News-NEWS.am information-analytical agency."

"#7/1, Verin Shenga vit, 2nd street, Yerevan, Armenia"

And:

"Armenia-based NEWS.am independent information- analytic agency is specialized in the production and spreading of information products. The main target group of the agency is individuals and organizations interested in obtaining timely and reliable information about the social, political and economic developments in Armenia and Nagorno-Karabakh, as well as Diaspora communities around the world. The agency also focuses on the topical events, problems, and trends in the South Caucasus region."

Source: About agency

A whois query yields similar location information -- Armenia.

If you can prove your assertion that it is actually Russian, please cite something other than the assertion. Thanks in advance.

72 posted on 12/04/2023 1:35:32 PM PST by Worldtraveler once upon a time (Degrow government)
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To: JonPreston

The Russians are bigger thieves, and they are a far bigger danger to the rest of the world.


73 posted on 12/04/2023 1:37:42 PM PST by amnestynone (We are asked by people who do not tolerate us to tolerate the intolerable in the name of tolerance.)
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To: silverleaf

When your enemy is stupid, backwards, ignorant and poorly motivated even their weapons would be no match for our “obsolete” weapons.


74 posted on 12/04/2023 1:40:13 PM PST by amnestynone (We are asked by people who do not tolerate us to tolerate the intolerable in the name of tolerance.)
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To: MNDude

“As a citizen of that ruthless superpower, I would prefer we just just putting ruthless neocons in power instead of being forced to heel from bankrupting ourselves.”

As we used to say during the cold war, “Why don’t you just move to Russia if you feel that way about this country”.


75 posted on 12/04/2023 1:42:42 PM PST by amnestynone (We are asked by people who do not tolerate us to tolerate the intolerable in the name of tolerance.)
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To: amnestynone

The Ukraine Project is collapsing and The Zelensky is a common thief. You were a cheerleader 📣 for this mess. Do you feel dopey?


76 posted on 12/04/2023 1:43:59 PM PST by JonPreston ( ✌ ☮️ )
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To: Timber Rattler
TheBattman claimed that the source cited by the story was Russian (and thus, the implication goes, not to be trusted). He said nothing about NEWS.am itself; only its source.

However, "Ukrainska Pravda" is a Ukrainian outlet, not Russian. That it has the name 'Pravda' does not therefore imply a connection with the infamous voice of the Central Committee of the Communist Party from the days of the USSR.

If you still think they're pro-Russian, take a gander at their Twitter feed.

77 posted on 12/04/2023 1:44:29 PM PST by Ultra Sonic 007 (There is nothing new under the sun.)
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To: amnestynone

“Why don’t you just move to Russia if you feel that way about this country”.

Nah. We just need to water the Tree of Liberty at home and we’ll be doing just fine.


78 posted on 12/04/2023 1:50:36 PM PST by MNDude
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To: Allegra

LOL! 3 hours of oom-pah music!


80 posted on 12/04/2023 2:02:26 PM PST by kiryandil (China Joe and Paycheck Hunter - the Chink in America's defenses)
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