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The reasonableness of the European Right
Asia Times ^

Posted on 11/25/2023 4:49:51 AM PST by FarCenter

Geert Wilders’ surprise victory in last week’s Dutch elections portends an upheaval in European politics long in the offing, but provoked by two pressing events.

The first is the mass demonstrations in support of Hamas by Muslim migrants after October 7, a triumphalist assertion of power by a minority that believes that it may become the future majority.

This cast a harsh light on uncontrolled mass immigration, now Europe’s top political issue. The failure of the mainstream parties to address the continent’s most pressing problem opens a path to power for an opposition that only months ago was dismissed as a political fringe element.

The second issue is popular hostility to the Ukraine war, which Ukraine is visibly losing.

Long derided as extremist throwbacks, Europe’s right-wing parties have become the last bastion of what used to be conventional wisdom in the West. Their nationalism has more in common with Charles De Gaulle than Jean-Marie Le Pen, and their views on key issues – immigration, Russia, China, and the United States – are rational and considered.

Hungary’s Prime Minister Viktor Orban, who describes himself as a Christian Democrat in the style of the late German chancellor Helmut Kohl, is the standard-bearer of the new European right, but prospective leaders are emerging in several European countries.

Wilders, to be sure, has taken colorful positions on his country’s Muslim problem, proposing at one point to ban the Koran and close mosques. These are rhetorical gestures rather than statements of policy. What qualifies the European right for a position of leadership is that it offers rational policy alternatives on economic, social and security policy.

Migration, legal and illegal, is transforming the character of European society. Officially, about 7% of the populations of France, Britain and Germany are Muslim migrants, but the actual numbers are higher.

In 2017, the Pew Institute estimated that 8.8% of French residents were Muslim, and that the total would rise to 18% by 2050. More than half of all schoolchildren in the German city of Hamburg are from migrant families.


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1 posted on 11/25/2023 4:49:51 AM PST by FarCenter
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To: FarCenter

We have a similar problem here of immigration without assimilation.


2 posted on 11/25/2023 4:54:40 AM PST by Tell It Right (1st Thessalonians 5:21 -- Put everything to the test, hold fast to that which is true.)
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To: FarCenter

deport every last one of the savages


3 posted on 11/25/2023 4:57:59 AM PST by imabadboy99
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To: Tell It Right

Some who have been here for hundred of years segregate and fail to assimilate. Tribal values manifested as BLM are the result


4 posted on 11/25/2023 4:59:24 AM PST by bert ( (KWE. NP. N.C. +12) Joe Biden is a kleptocrat)
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To: bert
Some who have been here for hundred of years segregate and fail to assimilate. Tribal values manifested as BLM are the result

I disagree. There was a time a century ago when blacks had lower rates of illegitimate births than whites, lower crime rates than whites, lower rates of divorce, etc. And the result was black experiences improving while whites were getting worse.

But that changed when LBJ and the Dims created a new god for blacks to believe in: government. We're in a spiritual war, not a political one or a racial one. When the Dims say they hate whites or western values, what they're really at war with are the parts of our culture still leftover from our First and Second Great Awakenings.

5 posted on 11/25/2023 5:08:19 AM PST by Tell It Right (1st Thessalonians 5:21 -- Put everything to the test, hold fast to that which is true.)
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To: Tell It Right

The topic is assimilation. There has never been Black assimilation


6 posted on 11/25/2023 5:10:34 AM PST by bert ( (KWE. NP. N.C. +12) Joe Biden is a kleptocrat)
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To: bert

There was a time when most blacks had assimilated into white American culture. Again, that was done away with by the Great Society.


7 posted on 11/25/2023 5:14:15 AM PST by Tell It Right (1st Thessalonians 5:21 -- Put everything to the test, hold fast to that which is true.)
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To: bert
I suggest that BLM's success has come from having true-believing Marxist leadership and a populace thoroughly indoctrinated into Marxism by colleges and universities for at least 60 years.

In fact, black communities in the U.S. were being heavily influenced by communists starting back in the 1930's (see Communists and the long struggle for African American equality).

Obama is a product of this indoctrination by way of his father figure, Frank Marshall Davis (Communist Party USA - CPUSA number 47544).

8 posted on 11/25/2023 5:25:30 AM PST by RoosterRedux (A person who seeks the truth with a strong bias will never find it. He will only confirm his bias.)
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To: Tell It Right
There was a time when most blacks had assimilated into white American culture. Again, that was done away with by the Great Society.

By about 1960, most blacks were culturally American. They aspired to be treated as culturally American.

By 1975, the left had succeeded in planting the seeds of black Americans as irrevocably distinct, holding completely divergent cultural values which rejected all the values mainstream Americans held.

9 posted on 11/25/2023 5:29:26 AM PST by marktwain
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On the contrary, the ones who haven’t assimilated into America are the far left progressives, who are actually LILY WHITE. Nearly seven-in-ten Progressive Left (68%) are White adults, making this group less racially and ethnically diverse than the other Democratic-oriented groups.

Yet, these Dems hold views more extreme racist views than those held by more racially-diverse Dem groups....

...as well as general views more extreme than those held by more racially-diverse Dem groups.

They live in enclaves in cities, prefer going to museums over going to the range, and think religion is sophistry.

I haven’t met a black who talks about moving to Canada etc. But talk about Trump winning the election, and scores of white Hollywood types clutch their passport (but unfortunately, they stay, unassimilated).

10 posted on 11/25/2023 5:30:04 AM PST by DoodleBob (Gravity's waiting period is about 9.8 m/s²)
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To: RoosterRedux

BLM is a political gambit created to promote the illusion of unity where there was actually diversity.

The Trump campaign foolishly bragged that it had 34% of the Black Vote. BLM was created to reverse that existential Democrat party development.


11 posted on 11/25/2023 5:34:24 AM PST by bert ( (KWE. NP. N.C. +12) Joe Biden is a kleptocrat)
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To: bert
You might enjoy this:
Marxism Underpins Black Lives Matter Agenda, The Heritage Foundation


12 posted on 11/25/2023 5:49:30 AM PST by RoosterRedux (A person who seeks the truth with a strong bias will never find it. He will only confirm his bias.)
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To: RoosterRedux

Thanks for that


13 posted on 11/25/2023 6:07:22 AM PST by bert ( (KWE. NP. N.C. +12) Joe Biden is a kleptocrat)
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To: DoodleBob

Those two charts clearly show the totalitarian tendencies of our seditious internal enemies.

They speak to me of a lot of leftards in need of a good mugging and/or an actual job to get their ‘minds’ right.

Many of those ‘lily white’ lunatics are either in college now or are older products of the collegiate marxism of the past fifty years.


14 posted on 11/25/2023 6:40:22 AM PST by tomkat
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To: bert; Tell It Right; marktwain; DoodleBob

Two groups of people with significantly different AVERAGE IQs and whose members can easily be identified as belonging to one or the other group will never be able to peacefully coexist together.

It’s a tragic reality, but a reality nonetheless and pretending otherwise has led to the dystopia we’re living.

Separation is the answer. And I mean separation as in separate countries. It’s best for both. Why do we keep insisting on putting cats and dogs in the same cage?

If blacks “behaved” better pre 1950,it was because they lived separate from whites. They ran their own communities and enforced their own social standards.

Integration with whites and the noble lie that all races are on the AVERAGE the same, has resulted in the disaster we’re living.

There is a very logical cause-and-effect reason for this result. What do you think it is?


15 posted on 11/25/2023 7:02:21 AM PST by aquila48 (Do not let them make you "care" ! Guilting you is how they control you. )
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There is a very logical cause-and-effect reason for this result. What do you think it is?

Denial of reality by reversing the arrow of causality. It is at the core of Leftist ideology today, and which has dominated for 65 years.

16 posted on 11/25/2023 7:07:16 AM PST by marktwain
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To: aquila48; bert; Tell It Right; marktwain; tomkat
Two Professors Argue Democracy is Ill-Served by Free Speech on Campus (“Free-Speech Rhetoric…concedes too much to right-wing agendas… When free speech drowns out expert speech, we all suffer.”)

aquilla48, per your request for the names of the authors, they are:

Richard Amesbury, a professor of religious studies and philosophy at Arizona State University, and

Catherine O’Donnell, a professor of history at Arizona State University.

You speak of IQ and separation. You posit that it is the blacks who reject assimilation despite evidence being presented that it’s lily white leftists who are at odds with assimilation.

This free speech opinion screed isn’t from a “low IQ” folks or blacks. Indeed, it’s the work of the demographic championed by some.

No race has a monopoly on idiocracy. There are good and bad and smart and daft whites, blacks, etc.

That said, with apologies to Buckley, I’d rather separate from the college faculty in this country instead of the first few pages in the Harlem phone book.

17 posted on 11/25/2023 9:20:24 AM PST by DoodleBob (Gravity's waiting period is about 9.8 m/s²)
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To: bert

Soon France to go right, then Germany and Poland. They will reject American values and go back to older ideals. Change is coming fast.


18 posted on 11/25/2023 1:32:59 PM PST by Forward the Light Brigade ( Ride to the sound of the Guns!)
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To: DoodleBob

“No race has a monopoly on idiocracy. There are good and bad and smart and daft whites, blacks, etc.”

That’s the mistake most people make when talking about races. Yes every race has its genius and its moron, but it’s not the exceptions that make societal differences but the AVERAGE. The average defines the distribution. Most people in a group fall within one standard deviation of the mean. Since blacks as a group have an AVERAGE IQ one standard deviation lower than whites and Asians that means that a big majority of blacks fall significantly below the average for whites. It also means that there are fewer blacks on the higher IQ side of the curve.

This has huge ramifications in terms of average group performance in life. And it explains the reality that we see.


19 posted on 11/25/2023 7:01:06 PM PST by aquila48 (Do not let them make you "care" ! Guilting you is how they control you. )
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To: aquila48

“Asians” is a broad category. Median IQ in India, Bangladesh and Indonesia is not that high.


20 posted on 11/25/2023 7:22:34 PM PST by Clemenza
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