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If the US can’t fix its gun policy, maybe an international lawsuit can (barf alert)
Boston Globe via MSN ^ | November 12, 2023 | Jonathan Lowy and Manuel Oliver

Posted on 11/19/2023 10:32:38 AM PST by DoodleBob

…It’s time for a new approach. That’s why we are bringing the “Lawsuit for Survival” before the Inter-American Court of Human Rights. It’s the first suit to demand that the United States uphold the human right to live, free from gun violence. It’s part of a broader global Campaign for Survival to reframe the gun debate by ensuring that all nations, including the United States, recognize and protect our most fundamental right.

…Our suit asks the Inter-American Commission on Human Rights, which has jurisdiction over the United States as part of the Organization of the American States, to affirm that international law requires nations to protect people from gun violence, and that by enabling and tolerating ubiquitous shootings, the United States violated its obligations under human rights laws…

The obligation to protect life under human rights laws is consistent with America’s founding principles. “America’s First Freedom” is not a right to guns, as the National Rifle Association claims; the first right the Founders enshrined in the Declaration of Independence was the right to life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness. Guns weren’t mentioned. When the Framers later addressed “arms” in the Second Amendment, it is our view that they intended to protect state military units (“a well-regulated militia”), not individual gun rights. Nor did they intend that gun-toting individuals, rather than government entities, should defend fundamental rights.

The right to live outweighs the right to own guns….Even the most avid gun owners should agree that the right of children to live deserves more protection than gun ownership. The gun violence epidemic in the United States will never end until the federal government recognizes that its most basic obligation, morally as well as legally, is to protect Americans’ right to live and not be shot.

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; News/Current Events
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To: DoodleBob

Please correct me if I am wrong, but international agreement cannot trump the Constitution.


61 posted on 11/19/2023 2:14:11 PM PST by Reno89519 (It's war. No one murders and takes Americans hostage. Time to act. Declare war on Islamic Hamas.)
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To: DoodleBob

“The gun violence epidemic in the United States will never end until the federal government recognizes that its most basic obligation, morally as well as legally, is to protect Americans’ right to live and not be shot.”

What about abortion and babies? Don’t they have a right to live?


62 posted on 11/19/2023 2:16:36 PM PST by kawhill (kawhill)
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To: Drew68
Trump is no friend to the Second Amendment.

Yet I don’t know of one pro gun organization who has thrown Trump under the bus in favor of RDS.

63 posted on 11/19/2023 4:17:26 PM PST by broken_clock (Go Trump! Still praying.)
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To: broken_clock
Yet I don’t know of one pro gun organization who has thrown Trump under the bus in favor of RDS.

So what? The NRA endorsed Mitt Romney who previously signed an entire assault weapons ban while governor.

I judge men by what they do. Not by what they say they are going to do. Trump talks a great game on gun rights but as president, he banned guns. And he did so by executive order, without even involving congress.

And he's said he'd do it again.

Support Trump if you want to but don't try to blow smoke up my ass and tell me that he's a champion for 2A rights. His actions demonstrate otherwise.

64 posted on 11/19/2023 4:32:46 PM PST by Drew68 (Ron DeSantis for President. A conservative who fights and wins..)
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To: Drew68

You are absolutely right.

I’d still vote for him, but I am under no illusion he’s a big 2A supporter.


65 posted on 11/19/2023 4:35:49 PM PST by Lazamataz (The firearms I own today, are the firearms I will die with. How I die will be up to them.)
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To: Drew68
Support Trump if you want to but don't try to blow smoke up my ass and tell me that he's a champion for 2A rights. His actions demonstrate otherwise.

Lol, I said nothing of the kind regarding Trump being the champion of 2A rights. He is just the best man for the job.

Btw, a stock is not a gun. A stock is not serialized and if you lose your stock in a boating accident no one cares.

66 posted on 11/19/2023 4:43:15 PM PST by broken_clock (Go Trump! Still praying.)
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To: broken_clock
Btw, a stock is not a gun. A stock is not serialized and if you lose your stock in a boating accident no one cares.

Gun banners always tell me that the components they want to ban will not infringe on my 2A rights.

67 posted on 11/19/2023 4:52:58 PM PST by Drew68 (Ron DeSantis for President. A conservative who fights and wins..)
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To: hanamizu

Okay fast forward—
2A is toast and DS wants 500 million guns.
We deliver or They swing by to pickup perhaps. This is a massive amount with lots of room for Disaster and will be an unprecedented Tyrannical move on Planet Earth with a very pissed off populace.
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Just forming a scenario.


68 posted on 11/19/2023 6:37:01 PM PST by Big Red Badger (The Truman Show)
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To: Lazamataz

Damn Laz, your getting hostile in your old age, glad you joined the club.

5th MEB


69 posted on 11/19/2023 8:22:00 PM PST by 5th MEB
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To: DoodleBob

These two need to amputate their richards because rape is a terrible crime and should be stopped.


70 posted on 11/19/2023 8:26:50 PM PST by going hot (Happiness is a Momma Deuce)
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