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Inflation is down unless you buy food to eat
American Thinker ^ | 11/14/2023 | Silvio Canto Jr.

Posted on 11/14/2023 10:39:39 AM PST by SeekAndFind

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To: Iron Munro

61 posted on 11/14/2023 3:55:06 PM PST by Songcraft
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To: SeekAndFind

Agree


62 posted on 11/14/2023 3:56:02 PM PST by ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas (Re-imagine the media!)
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To: ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas

Had Trump openly opposed the lockdowns, the MSM would have been calling him an opponent of science, a Luddite, a religious fanatic. They would have raised the alarm even further, and then used the BLM riots and the already growing crime wave to fuel a real insurrection, not the fake one they’ve been hyping up since 1/6/21. It was clear that he wanted the lockdowns over ASAP. But mass hysteria is a hard thing to combat, and mass hysteria was all the rage back then, stoked and fed by Dems, BLM and the MSM.


63 posted on 11/14/2023 3:59:56 PM PST by Eleutheria5 (Every Goliath has his David. Child in need of a CGM system. https://gofund.me/6452dbf1. )
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To: Miami Rebel

Good observations.


64 posted on 11/14/2023 4:00:55 PM PST by Bonemaker (invictus maneo)
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To: SeekAndFind; econjack
Also, the CPI conveniently does not include changes in fuel or food costs, which means the CPI is substantially understated.

65 posted on 11/14/2023 4:04:41 PM PST by Iron Munro (Sun Tzu: An Evil Man Will Burn His Own Nation To The Ground To Rule Over The Ashes. )
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To: Miami Rebel; Bonemaker
“What were they during Trump years?”

Much lower, even before we faded into recession in 2016.

Trump wasn't inaugurated until January 20, 2017.


66 posted on 11/14/2023 4:09:45 PM PST by Iron Munro (Sun Tzu: An Evil Man Will Burn His Own Nation To The Ground To Rule Over The Ashes. )
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To: Eleutheria5
I suspect we would be much better off without the Biden gang running things in 2017, although I am guessing those stimulus checks would have had some impact on prices.

But if Trump had not sent out at least one round of stimulus, the self-locked-down workers and those forced to stay home by the local governments would have gone completely ape. As you know, many of them are still at home.

67 posted on 11/14/2023 4:30:18 PM PST by ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas (Re-imagine the media!)
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To: Texas resident

High fuel prices raise food prices, but they are not the only thing.if worked that way, food prices would drop more - albeit slower - when the fuel prices dropped by almost half, rather than barely budging and then beginning their climb again.


68 posted on 11/14/2023 4:38:46 PM PST by lepton ("It is useless to attempt to reason a man out of a thing he was never reasoned into"--Jonathan Swift)
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To: Songcraft


69 posted on 11/14/2023 4:47:57 PM PST by Iron Munro (Sun Tzu: An Evil Man Will Burn His Own Nation To The Ground To Rule Over The Ashes. )
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To: SeekAndFind

The price of crickets has just gone up and Kamala has just gone down!


70 posted on 11/14/2023 6:26:30 PM PST by TigersEye (Our Republic is under seige by globalist Marxists. Hold fast!)
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To: Iron Munro

I corrected above your comment.

As we all know, the recession occurred in 2020.


71 posted on 11/14/2023 7:16:55 PM PST by Miami Rebel
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To: Miami Rebel
Negative rates in the CPI does not mean recession or depression. Indeed, we often see negative rates as an encouraging sign when coming out of an inflationary period. Negative rates of 2% are often a goal of the Fed, especially when M2 measures are examined.
72 posted on 11/14/2023 7:39:40 PM PST by econjack
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To: SeekAndFind

They used to be included, but when inflation peaked around 21% during the Carter Administration, they tried using smoke and mirrors to convince the public that inflation wasn’t that bad. It wasn’t that bad because because the gov’t changed the goal posted by omitting some of the fastest growing prices in energy and food from the index.


73 posted on 11/14/2023 7:43:17 PM PST by econjack
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To: econjack

I defer to you, but I’d appreciate you sharing with me a time when negative rates were a Fed goal. I know that the Bernanke Fed adopted 2% CPI growth as its target in 2012.

“We often see negative rates as an encouraging sign when coming out of an inflationary period.”

When?

I understand that a recessionary capitulation can mark the beginning of a recovery, but the only time in living memory that CPI declined for a calendar year was in 2009 following the financial collapse, and even then it dropped by only .04%.

In 1982, with the Volker-engineered collapse of inflation the rate still remained positive, although by only .31%. The next year saw a rebound to 3.2%.


74 posted on 11/14/2023 7:55:30 PM PST by Miami Rebel
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To: SeekAndFind
"Inflation is down unless you buy food to eat"

What if I'm only buying food that isn't for eating. What if I'm buying it for ... juggling. Or to resurface my driveway with. Or just to look at. I mean, food has so many uses apart from eating it.

75 posted on 11/14/2023 7:57:11 PM PST by Paal Gulli
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To: cgbg

One thing that is almost always left out of the discussion is money supply. M2 surged $3.5 trillion in the Trump/Biden COVID handout period. $3 trillion has since been drained.

All that loose cash had a major effect on the inflationary cycle.


76 posted on 11/14/2023 8:00:14 PM PST by Miami Rebel
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To: Miami Rebel
US M2 Money Supply is at a current level of 20.75T, down from 20.83T last month and down from 21.53T one year ago. This is a change of -0.34% from last month and -3.58% from one year ago.

From Basic Info, https://ycharts.com/indicators/us_m2_money_supply

77 posted on 11/15/2023 6:55:54 AM PST by econjack
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To: NEMDF

Frozen Turkey 49 cents/lb, also squash and yams 49 cents/lb.

TY Hannaford Bros.


78 posted on 11/15/2023 9:35:19 AM PST by Kenny500c ( )
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To: bert

You don’t understand what a rate is.


79 posted on 11/15/2023 9:20:02 PM PST by lasereye
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