Posted on 10/23/2023 7:52:24 AM PDT by rktman
Farley, whose company is set to lose $4.5 billion on its EV production this year, remains confident in their longer-term profitability. He embarked on a Route 66 road trip in August in Ford’s F-150 Lightning electric pickup truck, noting that “there are things you can’t learn in an office or from a PowerPoint,” in a LinkedIn post announcing the trip.
While on the road, Farley encountered inconsistencies in available charging. Some of the EV chargers he used were effective and provided a painless experience, while in another case, he had to use a low-speed charger that juiced up his truck’s battery to 40% in 40 minutes because there were no high-speed chargers available, he said on X, formerly Twitter. “It was a really good reality check,” Farley said of his experiences with EV charging, which he also described as “pretty challenging.”
The Biden administration, recognizing the up-front costs for both EV producers and consumers, has spent billions of dollars and aggressively regulated markets to facilitate its EV push. President Joe Biden is aiming for 50% of all new vehicle sales to be EVs by 2030, according to the White House.
The administration has committed $12 billion to allow manufacturers to retrofit their plants for EV production and $7.5 billion from the bipartisan infrastructure law to develop a national charging network, while the Inflation Reduction Act (IRA) contains $12.5 billion worth of tax credits to entice consumers into switching to an EV, according to UtilityDive.
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If you REALLY want to see this in action, talk to a wokey EV evangelist.
Let them spew their taking points. Smile at them.
Then ask, “what about the working poor, and folks living in Public Housing? There are NO CHARGING STATIONS in most apartment complexes. Even in “rich” complexes they have maybe one or two stations. Furthermore, the cost of an EV is way beyond the means of a waitress or dish washer driving his/her 2011 Corolla to work. Let’s face it: electric vehicles are pushed by rich whites to crush minorities and the poor.”
Watch them squirm and lose their mind.
Once the 15 minute cities are mandated you won’t need a car at all and you won’t to able to converse with anyone with opposing opinions. Your citizen freedom rating has probably already been determined by your purchases and lifestyle choices. The future is going to be wonderful.
It is not just a problem with not enough Lithium. There is not enough Nickle, Copper, Cobalt being mined in the world to support even close to 1/3 of people to being driving EVs.
This is why Chile and other countries that are the main source in the world for Nickle and Copper have made so that China can not come in and take of the mining of it like they have cobalt in the Congo.
Energy density is a stubborn fact - minimize its importance at your own risk.
“ Charging stations in dem-o-rat run crapholes will become robbery/car jacking stations.”
👆🏻Yes
I will be making a trip to the Seattle area in late November. Car rental prices are all that bad, but you can rent an all-electric car for about 1/2 the price. I suppose if you needed it for just a day or two and the initial charge was all you need, it might be an option.
My guessbis virtually no one is choosing that option for obvious reasons.
“I still have an ICE car”
You have just pointed out the problem with current EVs. While they are fine for a second car or even a daily commuter vehicle for short rounds trips they are not dependable to drive cross country. Therefore, they are not a practical choice for most people.
I have ridden in a friends Model S Plaid. It was a beautiful automobile. It was amazingly quick. Faster than anything in a ICE under $200K. It was also luxurious inside. His other vehicle is a full sized 4WD pick up truck.
Most people can not afford two vehicles. So, IMHO that is why a plug in hybrid to me is the best option. Something that you can charge overnight at home. Then you can drive it on battery only for 40 miles ish.
My son’s roomate has a Tesla 3. He drives it to his place of employment where they have a half dozen FREE chargers. However, you have to get there pretty early in the morning because there are hundreds of people that work at this facility.
Thanks for the YouTube links... the guy is an advocate for EVs and glosses over some major issues that are very serious but he still makes interesting observations and shares his real-world experiences. Such as his “range anxiety” with he says is like always driving a normal vehicle with a quarter tank of gas. Obviously, he would never have tried to make a two-thousand-mile drive in the Nissan Leaf that Nissan let him use for a year to try out for free.
I don’t think that he mentions anywhere in any of his videos about factors that can severely impact the life of lithium based batteries. If one charges the battery to more than 80% and/or discharges it to under 20%, or stores the car with the battery either above or below 40%... the longevity of the most expensive part of the car will be impacted.
With a standard diesel or gasoline powered vehicle, road trips are easier on the engine than a bunch of short trips. With an electric vehicle this is the opposite. Charge/discharge cycles which are repeatedly going above 80% and below 20% will shorten the longevity of the battery.
Our local Ford dealer made a presentation to our Chamber of Commerce ostensibly to promote solar power and EVs.
It was not what you might have expected.
They talked about driving from Rio Rancho to Grants - an 80-ish mile trip - in the electric F150. It was summer so they had the AC blasting. When they got to Grants, they had used 2/3’s of their battery. They talked about the joys of 45 idyllic minutes in exciting Grants, New Mexico waiting for the truck to recharge enough to get back. They said it could have been worse...they could have taken the electric Mustang.
The rest of the presentation boiled down to these are not serious vehicles. If you want something for in-town commuting that you charge every night, fine. Don’t charge them inside. Otherwise, buy a real vehicle.
Hmmmmm! Maybe someone could do a website similar to “gasbuddy” and call it “zapbuddy” showing charging stations and who has the best kw/hr prices. Oh, and shortest charging times? 🤔🛢👍
🙏🇮🇱👍
Oversized electric golf cart fanbois not amused.
But, but, golf carts are teh fastar!
That kind of rental is 150% higher than the highest house payment I have even had.
BY MY CALCULATIONS: THE BEST FUTURE BUSINESS TO HAVE IS THE TOWING BUSINESS
Yep.
No...who'd want to carjack an EV ? Robbery yes. Carjack no.
Rental agencies might be tempted for in-city short term applications, until a rental is returned with a damaged battery.
Also note that the three EV execs and Granholm testers operated in moderate summer weather.
There is no win to be found with EVs except in the smallest niches, which Tesla can hopefully monopolize and make a profit, but I'm skeptical of even that.
YOU HAVE TO ADD IN THE OVERNIGHT STAYS REQUIRED BECAUSE OF THE CHARGING TIME. $$$$$$$$$
ALSO—_YOU MUST CHOOSE YOUR ROUTE VERY CAREFULLY TO EVEN FIND CHARGING STATIONS-—
AND-—DO NOT FOLLOW THE GPS INSTRUCTIONS-—YOU CAN DIE OUT IN THE MIDDLE OF SOMEWHERE-—PEOPLE HAVE.
Or the hoodrats will just sabotage the chargers to “F___ S___ Up!”
UNFAIR BURDEN ON EMPLOYER, IMO.
When the technology is in place to effectively and efficiently make EVs feasible, then I’d consider one.
But pushing them and banning gas and diesel engines when there’s nothing to replace them with is idiocy.
Do you charge it mainly at home or at charging stations? What is your typical charge time at a charging station? Do you usually charge it all the way or just enough to get home so you can finish charging there?
How do you use your EV? Mainly as a short range daily commuter? Do you think you could get by with the EV as your sole vehicle?
What is your plan for when the battery loses capacity? Does Tesla have a policy for that?
Do you find your EV wears out tires faster than your ICE vehicles?
Do you use the heat and A/C much in your part of the country, and how do they affect the range?
Please forgive all the Qs...I’m just curious
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