Posted on 10/17/2023 6:20:04 AM PDT by cba123
Less than six months after filing with the Chinese government to add solid-state batteries to three of its EV models, NIO has just filed to include the potentially game-changing technology to 11 more. With dozens of EVs powered by the lighter, safer, and more energy-dense cells, the automotive landscape overseas could soon look very different in that drivers can go further and charge faster.
As one of the leading EV automakers in China, NIO ($NIO) is continuing to push innovation to its current limit, at least in terms of range and charge speeds. The company has been leveraging its relationship with solid-state battery developer WeLion for years, and the public is now starting to see the fruits of that relationship begin to blossom into bonafide EV models.
When NIO first unveiled its ET7 sedan back in January of 2021, it also showcased a new 150 kWh solid-state pack developed with WeLion, vowing to eventually implement the technology in its vehicles.
Nearly a year ago, WeLion was touting its first solid-state cells rolling off its assembly lines in China, bringing the prospect of longer-range NIO EVs (or any EVs for that matter) one step closer to reality. This past May, a filing by NIO with China’s Ministry of Industry and Information Technology revealed the automaker was finally putting the regulations in place to sell EVs with the advanced batteries as early as the summer of 2023.
Well, that hasn’t happened just yet, but it appears closer than ever now that NIO has just submitted an additional filing to implement solid-state packs into nearly a dozen more of its EVs. Here’s the latest.
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Air conditioning is pretty standard these days.
Mine does not have it, but it is really basic (doesn’t even have doors, though it has a roof)
I will get A/C when I upgrade next.
Has anyone even talked about simple things, such as someone driving an EV from Boston to Florida, and will stay overnight at a motel?
Are the motel owners going to have to renovate their facilities to include charging stations with each room? Will that be done, or will there be more “tax incentives” or “tax breaks” to give them money to do it?
Or will they just expect people to charge their cars at certain, specified places. Maybe they will. And maybe motel owners will see an opportunity to make charging facilies available as an attraction to entice people to stay there, even without those inducements.
I don’t have an issue with EVs per se. I see advantages in construction techniques and simplicity of operation, in much the same way jet propulsion provided increased simplicity and improved performance over reciprocating engines.
And I like the reduced noice and increased torque.
But the delivery and charging aspect is enormous, and not being addressed in the least.
True. That tech you linked to sounds very very promising- I won’t consider current ev’s, and do not beleive we can create I frastructure to keep them charged. We already have rol.ing brown outs and complete blackouts in many states due to high demand- there’s no way we can create enough electricty to fuel a nation full of ev’s- and the waiting lines at the charging stations are gonna be brutal and dangerous as folks get upset for one reason or another.
I’ll stick to gas for now. But am kinda excited to see that new tech roll out if it can.
I’ll bet though that states will charge high prices to,use their roads though because there won’t be any fuel taxes or electric charges/increases. One way or another, we are gonna pay for whatever tech become dominant
The NDB do not need charging EVER, like for 100 years. They are not batteries so much as solid state DC generators
They are in development currently. If they pan out, your objection will lose any meaning. You’ll buy a car and hand it down to your children as an heirloom and it will never need charging.
That’s why I wrote that I would not buy a current type EV.
A recent study found in David Blackmon’s substack of last week from Michael Kelly, a Cambridge Prof of Engineering, said that the total cost of net zero by 2050 would be on the order of $100 TRILLION, that we’d have to more than triple our power generation just to provide BACKUP.
The numbers of College grads in electrical engineering alone would be on the order of 300,000, with 1.2 million additional service people required.
Current number of EE grads per year? 21,000.
Believe me...if something like tht panned out, of course my objections would no longer be valid, and most consumers would absolutely clamor for the change-no-demand it!
I would be the first in line to be an advocate. And when that happens, I will buy one in a heartbeat. No questions asked.
I would love to see it. But at this time, it appears to be “in development”.
I just hope it isn’t like fusion power...always “ten years away” kind of thing.
It would leapfrog the obstacles and hey, who in their right mind wouldn’t want THAT?
Meanwhile CATL introduces 4C capable batteries to be made on the same assembly line as their old 3C.
FYI, 4C batteries are capable of charging to 80% in under 10 minutes.
I’ve heard and read about these. I doubt they can be scaled up sufficiently for large applications.
Unfortunately true...but circumstances are proving that solar and wind are not enough, as proven repeatedly where I live (San Antonio). I lived through the "big freeze" a couple of years ago when grid here basically failed. Thank God we had natural gas and a gas stove. We lit the stove with matches and put pots of water to boil, so we were able to cook, wash, and stay somewhat warm...at least in the kitchen.
The saner ones in the "environmental movement" are beginning to acknowledge that some level of nuclear baseline energy is necessary.
Leftists wish to murder 90% of earth s population. They say so. Take them at their word.
I sure hope that is true, because nuclear energy in a variety of ways would go a long way towards helping us.
Also...we don’t need to build nuclear plants with 1960’s or 1970’s technology (as you likely know) the way they did with the Space Shuttle.
Build them like Elon Musk is building SpaceX rockets!
I certainly do take them at their word.
It has been my experience with the Left is that they will tell you just what they want to do, you only need to keep your ears open and listen.
I read the article, but it didn’t discuss any specifics.
What I did find interesting is that these units are apparently made to be replaceable.
I have long thought that if there was a scheme where you could drive up, a machine aligns with your car, opens a compartment automatically, pulls the existing pack out and puts a charged one in, that would be one way I would consider it on a large scale if the power delivery issues were addressed.
I did read some of the comments, something I rarely do, and there was some poster who insisted that ICE vehicles catch fire 61 times more than EV, but it made me think of two responses:
First, how many EVs are on the road compared to ICE vehicles?
And second, how many ICE vehicles actually catch fire in the middle of the night, unattended, parked in a garage or in a parking lot as happens with EVs?
Most people simply can’t face up to evil. They justify and discuss and invent “reasons” but simply won’t these monsters at their word. Hamas wants to murder all Jews. They say so. They start doing it. And leftist fools still don’t believe it. It would be funny if it wasn’t for the fact that these brainless cowards will end up getting us all killed.
But we still don’t have the infrastructure to charge 50 million cars at once. Solid state or not, you have to put the same amount energy you took out.
Exactly. Leftists think that electric cars can be recharged from a near dead battery on house current overnight and that the existing electrical infrastructure will handle roughly twice the capacity without adding any realistic sources.
All the leftists hear is “nuclear” and they immediately shut down the conversation.
I live in Illinois and have seen a few Teslas on the road a long way from home as in Florida to Illinois and California to Illinois. The Tesla supercharging network has good coverage along the interstates and main highway systems as long as you don't wander too far from their charging network. Getting a charge isn't a problem although there might be a considerable wait time during peak travel periods.
Outside of Tesla, third party charging networks are a kludge. Electrify America seems to be doing a decent job of populating DC fast chargers, but they are way behind Tesla.
I don't see hotels/motels getting into the EV charging business on a grand scale. That is not their business.
The linked article contains essentially zero explanation as to how exactly this is a game changer. Substantially longer range? Faster charge speed? Lower cost? What’s the deal?
“I don’t see hotels/motels getting into the EV charging business on a grand scale. That is not their business.”
I don’t know about “grand scale,” but it is happening to some extent on I-5 in California. For example at the Harris Ranch, hotel and restaurant complex in the valley, Tesla has a long string of its chargers set up. I assume Tesla paying Harris for the space on their property. Meanwhile, Harris can sell an overpriced steak dinner to the family of 4 while their Model 3 takes 90 minutes to charge.
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