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DW: Surprise, Putin and Zelensky don't agree on Gaza war
https://responsiblestatecraft.org/putin-zelensky-react-gaza/ ^

Posted on 10/13/2023 8:25:55 PM PDT by USA-FRANCE

RUSSIAN STANCE ON ISRAEL The Russian president has reportedly not called Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu since the weekend, and did not release a message of support or condolences following the attacks on Saturday.

UKRAINE STANCE ON ISRAEL: Zelensky, meanwhile, has repeatedly affirmed his country’s support for Israel, comparing Hamas’s attacks over the weekend to Russia’s conduct during the war. “The only difference is that there is a terrorist organization that attacked Israel, and here is a terrorist state that attacked Ukraine,” Zelensky said during a speech to NATO on Monday. He later told a French television station that he was confident that Moscow was supporting Hamas “in one way or another.”

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To: Prince of Space

Those who want Ukraine and Israel to win, are not “consumed” by war as you say. It’s the contrary!

We want PEACE.

If we appease extremely violent aggressors and let them go away with it - it beds for a future with even further wars.
By winning in Ukraine and Israel, it will calm down all the evil-doers on the planet. Like Chinas lust to attack our Taiwan ally - for example...


21 posted on 10/13/2023 9:06:13 PM PDT by USA-FRANCE
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To: USA-FRANCE
For the few "Freepers" (now in hiding) who supported Putin just a week ago... it's time for you to chose side.

The Israel Attacks: Beyond the Obvious with Efrat Fenigson

Shallow thinkers rarely see the bigger picture. Of course Putin is going to support Hamas. Proxy wars are evil, and you still fail to see that fact. You support the proxy war against Russia, so Putin is going to support the proxy war against America's enemies, which would obviously include Hamas.

Still doesn't change my opinion regarding the Ukraine war, it needs to stop, but it is not going to stop the way you wish for it to stop. that's because Russia is winning that conflict.

Let's hope we can do better supporting Israel, but I doubt it will take billions to become a losing cause. But it may end up starting WWIII.

This becomes the 2nd war our "leaders" will want to support. Israel will not make this a quick war, this time around.

22 posted on 10/13/2023 9:12:49 PM PDT by Robert DeLong
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To: BobL; Right Brother; EEGator; Prince of Space
If anyone doesn't have the exact same opinion as John Bolton and Victoria Nuland, they "stand shoulder-to-shoulder with Hamas, raping women and killing babies".

The Zeepers are so tiresome.

Hey - did anyone see Alexander Mercouris today, where he noted that the Ukrainians have discovered a new cache of 85 mm artillery shells?

Zounds!

23 posted on 10/13/2023 9:20:09 PM PDT by kiryandil (China Joe and Paycheck Hunter - the Chink in America's defenses)
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To: USA-FRANCE
Did you want to start a Go-Fund-Me for more 85mm shells for the Ukraine, chum?   
24 posted on 10/13/2023 9:26:09 PM PDT by kiryandil (China Joe and Paycheck Hunter - the Chink in America's defenses)
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To: USA-FRANCE
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25 posted on 10/13/2023 10:12:36 PM PDT by CapandBall
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To: CapandBall

Really? You can’t choose Isreal over a bunch of baby killing terrorist psychos?


26 posted on 10/13/2023 10:16:35 PM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn...)
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To: central_va

I don’t have to choose. Israel can handle baby killing psychos all by themselves. They don’t need my approval or support. Do you need me to clap & cheer?


27 posted on 10/13/2023 10:24:43 PM PDT by CapandBall
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To: USA-FRANCE

How about flooding the world with oil and sending every malcontent back to skid row?

Instead France is being fueled how? last I looked, US is no longer energy independent

and endless people are dying unnecessarily the world over.


28 posted on 10/13/2023 10:25:01 PM PDT by Freest Republican (This space for rent)
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To: Prince of Space
I’m not rooting for either side, unlike you Zelenskyy bros

LOL

you're a Putin cheerleader, Russian Princess, be honest

you even gave it away right there!


29 posted on 10/13/2023 10:28:04 PM PDT by canuck_conservative (there would be no more need for NATO, if Russia could just stop attacking its neighbors)
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To: USA-FRANCE

Screw the Russians. I tried to see their view point a bit vias a vis Ukraine. But seeing and hearing the squinty eyed, obsiquious gangster Putin sucking up to Hamas and the pakestinian savages has done a 180 for me. I hope Ukraine evenrually kicks them all the way back to Moscow.


30 posted on 10/13/2023 10:29:04 PM PDT by Long Jon No Silver (Rrily)
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To: central_va

Russian social media is temporarily ignoring Ukraine and has become a giant cheering grandstand for Hamas. So naturally the Russians trolls here cannot unequivocally condemn the poor little terrorists from Gaza.


31 posted on 10/13/2023 10:29:12 PM PDT by Monterrosa-24 (Saludemos la patria orgullosos)
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To: Robert DeLong

The world markets are lol at the idea this going to an extended ME conflict.

They’re wrong a lot but not nearly as often as the doomsdayers.


32 posted on 10/13/2023 10:31:14 PM PDT by Freest Republican (This space for rent)
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To: USA-FRANCE
In the News/Activism forum, on a thread titled DW: Surprise, Putin and Zelensky don't agree on Gaza war, USA-FRANCE wrote:
Putin supports HAMAS (and IRAN....) Zelenski supports Israel.

For the few "Freepers" (now in hiding) who supported Putin just a week ago... it's time for you to chose side.

Are you with the Hamas/Russia/Iran Gang?

Or are you with the US Israel Ukraine and Europe team?

You and others advocating for the Ukraine denounce adn falsely portray as 'Putin supporters' anyone who says, "Not one more dime to the Ukraine!" or "We shouldn't be involved." "What about  our own borders" (I cleaned it up for you).

I don't support Putin and I certainly don't want to pour the US Treasury into that smoking crater in the Ukraine. I denounce the dancing little grifter for lying to the public to get money. My disgust with Zelensky is always distorted by Ukraine supporters as 'support for Putin' or 'Putinista' (really - I cleaned it up for you because I hate how you people smear with vulgarity.)

I don't have to 'choose sides' - I have said repeatedly that the Ukraine doesn't deserve our support and that I don't want to send money to Russia either. I've said get us out of the Ukraine and let Biden get a job instead of theft, fraud, and money laundering.

I am in support of Israel and against Hamas. Deal with it - see if you can accept someone's opinion without lying and claiming I mean something else etc. See if you can somehow restrain yourself from name calling.

You must know Biden extorted the Ukrainian minister to fire the prosecutor investigating Hunter. You must know Trump asked Zelensky to investigate the Biden crimes in the Ukraine and Zelensky said 'no'. Where do your morals go when it comes to Zelensky and the Ukraine. It seems like your morals go AWOL when it comes to the little puppet dancing grifter.

33 posted on 10/13/2023 10:34:32 PM PDT by ransomnote (IN GOD WE TRUST)
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To: BobL

So now you are against Putin? When did that happen.


34 posted on 10/13/2023 10:58:56 PM PDT by nickcarraway
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To: ransomnote

“You must know Trump asked Zelensky to investigate the Biden crimes in the Ukraine and Zelensky said ‘no’.”

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

You are mistaken.

“Actually, Trump went on to say that he would direct Barr to reach out to Zelensky’s staff to coordinate an investigation, adding, “I’m sure you will figure it out.” But Trump never directed Barr to reach out to the Ukrainians, a Department of Justice spokeswoman told the Wall Street Journal.”

Zelensky has NEVER said “NO”, as you say.


35 posted on 10/13/2023 11:01:54 PM PDT by USA-FRANCE
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To: USA-FRANCE
Surprise, Putin and Zelensky don't agree on Gaza war

Well, obviously! I mean, Zelensky is a NAZI, and Putin is the savior of the Judeo-Christian world! Their positions on Hamas-Israel are obvious!

Wait, what? Really? No way! /S

Glad to see a couple folks on this thread "Red Pilled" by reality, a couple I never would have guessed...

36 posted on 10/13/2023 11:47:17 PM PDT by ETCM (“There is no security, no safety, in the appeasement of evil.” — Ronald Reagan)
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To: All

I’m betting they DO agree on Gaza, But Voldemort Zelensky has to pretend to support Israel in a last desperate attempt to keep the American taxpayer money flowing into his pockets as part and parcel of new aid to Israel.


37 posted on 10/13/2023 11:49:30 PM PDT by LegendHasIt
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To: USA-FRANCE

You perform a logical fallacy that gating Russia into war to protect Russian minority in Ukraine plus a bunch of other BS broken accords to HAMAS terror attack of beheading children, rape murder rape and killing random innocent people. I guess I wish our hundred thousand dead are exhumed from your shores and moved home. France - pissing off everone who has dared rescue them since the 1940s. Bugger off. I can hold 2 opinions that do not overlap except in some random frogs mind. Pathetic to lecture me on what my family lost on your soil. What I do now to ensure our military supremacy over enemies of the USA not Frogland. Just Wow. Unfortunately I can’t expose beyond that. Otherwise, I would embarrass you in just the military solutions to make the USA a power to exercise as good or evil depending on the executive branch. What you doing on your 32 hour work week?


38 posted on 10/14/2023 2:06:13 AM PDT by wgmalabama (Censored )
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To: USA-FRANCE; Allegra; ransomnote; Right Brother; Worldtraveler once upon a time; JonPreston; ...
Team? What imaginary team are you talking about?

Besides a couple of idiots here, no one on these Youke threads "supports" Putin.

Speaking for myself, I support no "team." I loathe the Ruzzziiiiaaaannn™ leader, I loathe the Youcraynian leader and I absolutely resent the fact that billions of US taxpayers' hard-earned dollars are being shoveled into Youcrayne, which is little more than a busted-out, wholly corrupt child trafficking nexus, a place whose military is shot through with neo-Nazis, a home to organ harvesting operations, a place peppered with shady, dangerous biolabs which present a grave threat to humanity, a craphole which exists essentially as a giant money laundering center for the likes of scumbags like the Biden Crime Family, the Pelosis, Kerrys, Romneys and other so called "elites."

Speaking of "sides," when it comes to Youcrayne, one of Europes most woefully corrupt countries, (one corrupt throughout all levels of society), why are you on the same side as leftists, globalists, shady "woke" corporations including Blackrock/Vanguard, the UN, George Soros, nearly all leftist NGOs, the UN, the Democrat Party, all RINOs, the Biden Crime Family and nearly every anti-West, anti-America, anti-White, anti-Christian NGO and.org in the world?

How can you support a country whose leader, a gay-dancing, piano dick-playing, running-around-naked-in-grocery-stores, B-grade actor and A-grade grifter, recently offered satanist "artist" Marina Abramovic an ambassadorship? How can you support a country who has as a miltary spokesman a freaky, hissing, threatening tranny with a bad wig?

39 posted on 10/14/2023 3:02:34 AM PDT by Rocco DiPippo (Either the Deep State destroys America or we destroy the Deep State. -Donald Trump)
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To: nickcarraway

“So now you are against Putin? When did that happen.”

Hard to believe anyone from a country that imports that many should have to nerve to preach to others about foreign policy.


40 posted on 10/14/2023 5:08:09 AM PDT by BobL (Trump gets my vote, even if I have to write him in; Millions of others will do the same)
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