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How Will the World React to Gaza? - Victor Davis Hanson
Twitter ^ | October 12, 2023 | Victor Davis Hanson

Posted on 10/13/2023 5:39:30 AM PDT by billorites

Hamas has always repelled most of the civilized world. But the world was either too scared or too woke to say just that.

But now Hamas’s premodern violations of all human norms have relieved most nations of any pretense of having to support it—at least for now. “Necklacing” and “baby burning” were its most recent contributions to its standard terrorist repertoire of hostage-taking, raping, beheading, and executions.

Most people will now hope Hamas gets what it deserves, while elites offer empty platitudes about “ending the cycle of violence” and “proportionality”.

As for the “world community” of the UN, the Davos crowd, the universities, the BLM fraudsters, and the DEI mafia endorsing what Hamas has done—they just indict themselves all the more, and slowly commit reputational suicide.

And whatever an NGO, a UN commissioner, an international court, or an American foundation preaches to Israel, it is worth nothing, and they themselves know that, and more importantly they privately know why.

So what is America’s position now?

Well, there are two Americas. The unstable, crazy, left-wing America now in power, and the traditionalist conservative one with a chance to take over in 2024.

The Left wishes to virtue-signal to the world its European sophisticated nihilism and to send its Ivy-League-stamped diplomats around the globe bloviating about the “rules-based order”, the “peace process”, and ending “the cycle of violence”—to yawns from its hosts who put up with the sermons for the checks to come.

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TOPICS: Front Page News; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: israel; vdh; victordavishanson; waronterror
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1 posted on 10/13/2023 5:39:30 AM PDT by billorites
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To: billorites

the primary difference between this war an d all previous instances of Israeli/Arab conflict is that this is the first time the US government is not on Israel’s side.


2 posted on 10/13/2023 5:43:32 AM PDT by wny
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To: billorites

In the context he means, there’s no such place as “the world”.

If we broaden the term to mean everyone living on the planet, some will cheer, some will yawn and say “SSDD”, and some will be excited that they get to play the Great Game with dangerous toys.


3 posted on 10/13/2023 5:43:48 AM PDT by Jim Noble (They have taken untold millions that they never toiled to earn)
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To: billorites

My position on Hamas is that the United States Air force should send rocket armed drones to simultaneously destroy all the homes and families of the Mexican Cartel leaders and their top executives.

Where cartels are concerned, there are no innocents


4 posted on 10/13/2023 5:48:21 AM PDT by bert ( (KWE. NP. N.C. +12) Joe Biden is a kleptocrat)
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To: billorites

Other thumbs up from Hanson.


5 posted on 10/13/2023 5:49:57 AM PDT by randita (I will support Ron DeSantis in the primary.)
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To: wny

Leftists call conservatives Nazis while supporting the murder of all Jews in Israel.


6 posted on 10/13/2023 5:55:40 AM PDT by Blood of Tyrants ( "It is easier to fool people than to convince them they have been fooled."- Mark Twain)
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To: Jim Noble

SSDD is what I hear from most non news junkies.

Depending on one’s perspective, this is 1300+ years old and counting.


7 posted on 10/13/2023 5:56:38 AM PDT by EEGator
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To: billorites
The young minds full of mush, having already been successfully indoctrinated, AND having the sincerity of misguided youth, is already well ensconced in the USA.

We never should have allowed it in the first place, but the enemy has been, and still IS, playing the long game.

IN MY OPINION . . . . . . .

When they determined it unlawful to keep your child out of any "educational structure" (i.e. public school), they knew they had the vehicle to destroy us from the inside (Nakita Kruschev), and here we are in 2023, fighting every fiery dart the devil can hurl at us.

It is being reported all OVER the news that something called "evil" is at the root of Hamas' attack on Israel, YET . . .

IT IS NOT BEING REPORTED THAT MAYBE WE SHOULD HAVE BEEN ALL THIS TIME, AND SHOULD NOW GO . . . .

to church.

8 posted on 10/13/2023 5:56:51 AM PDT by knarf (I say things that are true . . . . . I have no proof, but they're true !)
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To: billorites

“””The unstable, crazy, left-wing America now in power wishes to virtue-signal to the world its European sophisticated nihilism and to send its Ivy-League-stamped diplomats around the globe bloviating about the “rules-based order”, the “peace process”, and ending “the cycle of violence”—to yawns from its hosts who put up with the sermons for the checks to come.””””


VDH succinctly summarizes the news reports coming from ABC, NBC, CBS, NPR, CNN, MSNBC, FOX. And the above news media are doing nothing but reading the talking points given to them from Biden’s colleagues in government, NGO’s, universities


9 posted on 10/13/2023 5:59:49 AM PDT by Presbyterian Reporter
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“Russia? Russia is broke and its arsenals depleted.

It is tied down in Ukraine, and needs Iranian drones, and is forging arms agreements with Turkey.”

What an asinine thing to say. In all probability Russian influence on Iran is why the whole shooting match went down at this particular time. This has been an unqualified success for Putin. Hamas is ending the Uke quagmire and yes, Putin is forging relationships with what appears to be soon ex allies of the US in the area.

VDH seems to be taking his eye of his main concern here, VDH’s ridiculous claim that the Ukraine incursion was the opening gambit of a revanchist Soviet Union.

After falling in with the Zelensky is Churchill crowd, VDH has little credibility left on international questions.


10 posted on 10/13/2023 6:00:14 AM PDT by hardspunned (Former DC GOP globalist stooge)
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To: bert
"the United States Air force should send rocket armed drones to simultaneously destroy all the homes and families of the Mexican Cartel leaders and their top executives."

Now your TALKING.!! So let it be written, so let it be done....

11 posted on 10/13/2023 6:00:29 AM PDT by unread (I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America, and to the REPUBLIC..!)
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To: billorites

“Proportionality” only perpetuates the “cycle of violence”. Hamas, Hezbollah and Islam in general must be soundly defeated once and for all.


12 posted on 10/13/2023 6:19:27 AM PDT by sjmjax
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To: wny

Biden is responsible. He limited American oil and gas production and exploration. This enriched Iran and Russia.


13 posted on 10/13/2023 6:29:12 AM PDT by Daveinyork
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To: billorites

“How Will the World React to Gaza?”

For Americans? I’m going to venture to guess that the VAST majority will shrug and then continue to play on their ‘smart’ phones. The nutcases among them will get on their ‘Pro-Hamas, Pro-Terrorism’ gear and take to the streets...unless something good is on TV.

Either way, ‘We The People’ are doomed. :(


14 posted on 10/13/2023 6:33:40 AM PDT by Diana in Wisconsin (I don't have, 'Hobbies.' I'm developing a robust Post-Apocalyptic skill set. )
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To: billorites

*bump*


15 posted on 10/13/2023 6:42:44 AM PDT by Yardstick
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To: billorites

Yawn. If they have been pay attention they knew this was Obama 2.0.


16 posted on 10/13/2023 6:42:50 AM PDT by TornadoAlley3 ( I'm Proud To Be An Okie From Muskogee)
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To: hardspunned
VDH seems to be taking his eye of his main concern here, VDH’s ridiculous claim that the Ukraine incursion was the opening gambit of a revanchist Soviet Union.

While I do appreciate your use of the word "revenchist", I searched through VDH’s tweet and could not find anything resembling “the Ukraine incursion was the opening gambit of a revanchist Soviet Union”. Are you referring to a claim made by VDH at another time? Or are you claiming that something has been inferred in this tweet that has not been stated explicitly? Please clarify.

17 posted on 10/13/2023 6:48:54 AM PDT by fireman15 (Irritating people are the grit from which we fashion our pearl. I provide the grit. You're Welcome.)
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To: knarf

Yes, they’ll call it “evil”, but they have no definition of the word evil that doesn’t boil down to “unpopular” at the end of the day, because they have no true moral foundation.


18 posted on 10/13/2023 6:50:02 AM PDT by Boogieman
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To: hardspunned

Being one of the smartest historians currently alive, I think VDH probably has a lot better take on these matters than you do. You’re just blinded by your commitment to your own preconceptions.


19 posted on 10/13/2023 6:52:17 AM PDT by Boogieman
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To: billorites

“People” will react as their preconceived prejudice dictates. Regardless of the facts on the ground there will be a distribution of opinions and actions that cover the full range of possible reactions. Few minds will be changed by the actions on the ground.


20 posted on 10/13/2023 7:00:46 AM PDT by Gen.Blather (Wait! I said that out loud? )
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