Posted on 10/07/2023 4:51:02 AM PDT by Salman
Chicago on Friday became the largest American city to independently require that tipped employees make a full minimum wage, following a relatively easy City Council vote that delivered one of Mayor Brandon Johnson’s biggest political wins for his progressive agenda.
In a 36-10 vote, aldermen approved the measure that advocates said was direly needed for the lowest-paid service workers and that opponents countered would backfire, causing some employees in the service industry to be paid less and lead to higher menu prices and staff cuts. The ordinance becomes law immediately but the full impact won’t take effect for five years.
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But crime has already killed it.
People coming in from the suburbs to shop was a major chunk of that customer base. That is gone.
Thomas Sowell, Basic Economics: A Citizen's Guide to the Economy
Unreal. Couldn’t stand missing out on the tax revenue.
Read that book after graduating from college. That should be mandatory reading in DIE schools instead of the Regressive Nonsense they are forcing on kids now.
It’s the best book on economics, and real life, I’ve ever read.
Cool - no more tipping in Chicago.
Tipping was always 10%. Then suddenly 20%. A fifth of the invoice. What a rip off.
The Bear dies in Season 3.
Never understood the need for tipping. Pay staff whatever rate is appropriate. If the service isn’t acceptable, management should be aware of it and fix it. Or, the customer will fix it for them by not being a customer anymore.
I’d imagine the counter argument will be that going out for a meal will become more expensive. I think that ship has already left the dock and heading to open water.
Great news for restaurant frequenters in Chicago - at least for those that prefer sub-standard service.
A few states pay tipped employees over $15 an hour. But we need to fork over 20% of our bloated bill, too.
If you ever go to Europe, you will quickly see the difference in service between workers who rely on tips and those who do not.
I just returned from Amsterdam, a city I love, but the service is typically far below standards for an American. No tipping there. You will wait much longer for service before, during and after the meal. Much, much longer. In Italy, it is even more pronounced.
I’ve learned to just relax when eating out in Europe, so I can take it either way. Tips, no tips. Whatever. I live in NYC and won’t be going to Chicago anyway.
Think of servers as independent contractors.
They provide the link between the kitchen and the table, they provide the base for the dinning experience.
A smiling, friendly, attentive server makes the meal a pleasant night. Well worth paying for.
Wrong. I am a frequent cruiser. I in old days waiters received cash tips on last day of cruise. Service was very good. Now they include tips in bill. Service has become erratic.
I’m waiting for NYC to dip their toe in this pool - in places like NYC and Chicago you need to turn that table over two or three times a night on busy nights to make a profit. That won’t happen with these goofy wage laws. I’ve also been to Amsterdam (and I’m from NYC) and seen the difference in service. That attitude will come here and table times will rise, which means three times a night will quickly dwindle to two... which is hard to justify the rent on a restaurant when you consider how expensive a storefront is in Manhattan.
Prices will go up, service will go down. Owners will be miserable, landlords will have to deal with folks who can’t manage the change.
That’s not to say that this model can’t work - it’s just extremely difficult. I know one guy (we went to school together, he should be a Freeper) who owns two restaurants in Oregon - he owns both buildings and pays his staff a salary and does not accept tips. Service is great but he doesn’t have the pressure of doing 3 covers per table on a Saturday night... because all of low rent (i.e. managable mortgage). He operates in niches so he doesn’t have to defend his prices much - which, mind you, would be “moderate” in a big city like NYC or Chicago.
when you pay for your meal you are paying for the product...when you tip you are paying for the labor.
Gonna need deep pockets to afford a Chicago deep dish pizza.
Most Freepers are fascinated with the lowest rungs of the ecnomic ladder. It’s like they sit up at night fretting over a dishwasher could be, somewhere making $20.00/hr. Like it is a crises.
That’s is then. A sit down meal is going to cost $1000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000.00 + tip.
In Chicago, the tips will probably become $1/person if the service is efficient and also $1/person if the service is extraordinary.
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