Posted on 09/12/2023 7:59:41 PM PDT by GulliverSwift
In December 2016, Musk had a private meeting with Trump, during which he was “baffled” by the then-president-elect’s comments about Tesla and NASA.
“He seems kind of nuts,” Musk said after the meeting, according to Isaacson, “but he may turn out okay.”
On the contrary: Musk “concluded that Trump as president was no different than he was as a candidate,” Isaacson wrote. “The buffoonery was not just an act.”
“Trump might be one of the best bullshitters ever,” Musk told Isaacson. “If you just think of Trump as a sort of con-man performance, then his behavior sort of makes sense.”
... Musk told Isaacson that Trump should remain banned from Twitter if he was “engaged in criminal activity” — and even said he believed Trump was.
“I want to avoid the bullshit disputes about Trump,” Musk said. “If he’s engaged in criminal activity — it seems increasingly that he has — that’s not okay.”
“It’s not free speech to subvert democracy,” Musk said.
Then one day, in a “feisty mood” according to Isaacson, Musk posted a poll asking if Trump should be reinstated. The poll was close but the ayes had it, and Musk promised to reinstate the former president.
“I’m not Trump’s fan,” Musk told Isaacson that day. “He’s disruptive. He’s the world’s champion of bullshit.”
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As a genius I would expect more from him than just building useless electric cars that do nothing about saving this planet. For the resources that must be taken from the ground, most likely does more damage to the earth & man than helps the earth & man. So, his genius is questionable. He got a lot of his money from the U,S, Treasury with all of the subsidy incentives offered for worthless electric vehicles that are unreliable and have real problems with their unstable batteries packs.
He is more untouchable in a free society, but he is owned lock, stock & barrel by the CCP. That is why he never speaks bad of the CCP. for he knows that if he does, he could very easily go missing. He's not so smart as you think he is, But he is playing both sides of the coin effectively, but that presents dangers in itself. That's the only reason he became an American citizen.
the facts as he sees them, but those facts can be lies, and I doubt any really knows what lies he does buy as facts, because he keeps much of himself to himself for protection. Again, he never speaks ill of brutal practices the CCP engage in for control of the Chinese people.
Again a weak presentation, for which very little can you offer proof to confirm they are true & accurate.
Musk is naive about China. Of course much of his financial interests lie there, so of course he's going to get annoyed at Trump for making trouble with Chinese trade with the US.
Well...Musk wants all those Chinese to drive Teslas and cheaper to make them there. Pretty simple.
Trump likely isn’t planning any development in China so DJT is coming from a completely different perspective - he’s wants the USA to be independent of China for our own sovereignty. He doesn’t like HIS country being ripped off by China.
Every entrepreneur takes advantage of the bankruptcy laws, that is why they exist. . But his tax deal etc. were with states, not the Federal Government. I have heard many people complain about how they are still banned from twitter for reasons that are not in violation of the rules, and are accepted truths. So no, he hasn’t improved free speech at all.
I said improved, not made perfect.
Some people are still banned? Sure. But some other people have been let back on. (Including Trump.) An improvement.
Wow, ever heard of PayPal? Ever heard of SpaceX? Ever heard of Starlink? And those are just the companies Elon Musk started that I know about; he has a lot more that I don’t know the names of.
Talk about weak presentation.
It’s always been very clear, Elon (pronounced the same as Ellen) Musk is remarkably unimpressive.
Trump the ONLY president who did not start stupid foreign wars or continued asinine foreign wars with borrowed money
Trump the only president who actually built a substantial wall on southern border in spite of resistance from deep state.
Trump gave us record low unemployment.
Trump gave us record low gas prices (inflation adjusted).
Trump gave us record low inflation.
Trump nominated 3 good persons to SCOTUS.
Trump gave us biggest tax cut in history.
Trump stopped N Korea from launching rockets with just personal relationship with Kim. DeSantis or any others have no such personality.
Putin did not invade anybody when Trump was president.
Trump built strongest US military in history.
No, no. We need purity tests! Any who don’t pass shall be burned at the stake! /s
Not to mention the billions Telsa raked in selling carbon credits before Tesla made the first penny selling cars.
Well, the only one since Reagan. I don't think Reagan started any wars. Although both Reagan and Trump did use military power at times.
Trump built strongest US military in history.
Did he?
My impression was that it continued to go woke under his watch. The military defied and resisted Trump throughout his administration. Such as when he wanted to use it to stop the BLM rioting in DC.
I wasn’t talking about anything specific.
In this specific case Musk is wrong. For some this will be a 100% deal breaker for them on Musk on anything.
Musk congratulated the CCP on their birthday.
Bannon believes Musk is owned lock, stock and barrel by the CCP.
I agree.
Perfect reply. Thank you. +1
>> When do the bad points outweigh the good, for both of them?
Evaluate their results, not their words. (True of anyone, actually.)
The CCP doesn’t allow any company building hi-tech gadgets to do business in China without turning over the plans first and then also allowing the party to own large parts of the domestic operation.
Musk is on the hook for millions of dollars Chicoms. He sees China as the future for Tesla. He is their stooge to pull the wool over Republicans’ eyes with a few useless Twitter posts.
He only allowed Trump back on because he thought it would get him more money. But Trump won’t allow Musk to make money off him the way all these other grifters do. Good for Trump.
>> Musk is naive about China. Of course much of his financial interests lie there
That’s it, in a nutshell. One may safely evaluate what Musk says and does in light of his interests, which are weighty. By that I mean he holds himself responsible for many others besides himself.
Still, he’s exercising poor judgment. He’ll learn, eventually, that getting in bed with the CCP was short-sighted.
It’s not just “here”. It is everywhere on the internet. Mob mentality.
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