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VA argues for limiting veterans’ GI Bill benefits in case before Supreme Court
Chicago Sun Times ^ | Sept 11, 2023, | Stephanie Zimmermann

Posted on 09/12/2023 5:59:40 AM PDT by Salman

Military veterans tapping their Post-9/11 and Montgomery GI Bills for college can legally be granted fewer college benefits than they earned, the federal government argued in a U.S. Supreme Court brief filed Monday that could affect as many as 1.7 million long-serving veterans.

The filing offers the Department of Veterans Affairs’ side of the story in Rudisill v. McDonough, a Supreme Court case having to do with how college benefits are calculated for veterans who’ve earned and used them under different plans.

It puts the VA at odds with leading veterans’ rights organizations, as well as senators and representatives in Congress including the Republican vice chair of the House Armed Services Committee.

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(Excerpt) Read more at chicago.suntimes.com ...


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1 posted on 09/12/2023 5:59:40 AM PDT by Salman
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VA argues for limiting veterans’ GI Bill benefits in case before Supreme Court

Biden needs those funds to give to Iran, the migrant invaders and of course "The Big Guy".

2 posted on 09/12/2023 6:02:54 AM PDT by The Sons of Liberty (Biden Crime Family and Dem Party - Two Wholly Owned Subsidiaries of the CCP.)
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To: Salman

So as the Brandon Administration kisses the asses of all of the Student Loan deadbeats, they crap all over the American Veterans. FJB!


3 posted on 09/12/2023 6:03:27 AM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (Now that the MFL has its own African Nat'l anthem, I guess they aren't "african-americans" anymore.)
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I think millions if asked would say that the GI Bill is the greatest piece of legislation ever passed by Congress in the last hundred years. I know I would.


4 posted on 09/12/2023 6:09:00 AM PDT by Bookshelf
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To: Salman

I went to school on the old GI Bill...

I couldnt have gone otherwise...

This is not the only thing the VA have watered down for veterans...

When I joined in 1972 just about everything for a funeral for a veteran was paid for ...

When I separated 7 years later, we got a headstone and very little else...

Just an example...


5 posted on 09/12/2023 6:09:04 AM PDT by Tennessee Nana
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The GI Bill is now an “underfunded liability”. Why? They have spent the money! Since GIs tend to live to 65, they need to reduce payouts.


6 posted on 09/12/2023 6:18:25 AM PDT by Jan_Sobieski (Sanctification)
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“can legally be granted fewer college benefits than they earned”

Veterans get their earned rewards whacked, but Illegal Alien Invaders are granted benefits they never earned or deserved.

seems fair . . .
/s


7 posted on 09/12/2023 6:26:09 AM PDT by Macoozie (Handcuffs and Orange Jumpsuits)
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To: Salman

Dumb-F^^ks!!


8 posted on 09/12/2023 6:29:26 AM PDT by Agatsu77
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“Rudisill has been fighting the case since 2015 with help from volunteer attorneys Tim McHugh, David DePippo and now Tseytlin.”

Notice how the article states that the attorneys are volunteer attorneys. I wonder if this is because of an 1862 law that limits attorney fees for lawsuits by veterans against the government to only $10.00.


9 posted on 09/12/2023 6:32:56 AM PDT by ops33 (SMSgt, USAF, Retired)
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I joined in 1977, and it’d gone to GI-bill version 2.0 by that point. About six years later, it went to version 3.0. Before I retired in 1999...it’d changed again.

They dragged us around 1984 into a base theater and explained this in a crappy fashion. Afterwards, one of our folks was a economics major about to finish college. He gave us a 45-min detailed explanation (what we should have gotten at the presentation at the base theater).

Bottom line...the cost was climbing at a hefty rate, and the military would not be able to fulfill their obligation. As he said...take every advantage while you can because in a decade, massive cuts will be coming down the line. He was correct.

Between CLEP tests and DANTES...I wrapped up an entire year of college credits by ‘testing-out’ (all free of charge). Before the massive cuts, I walked away with three Associate Degrees and a Bachelor Degree....for what amounted to $4,000 on my part. Today? I doubt if you could accomplish that with their tuition-help for less than $20,000.


10 posted on 09/12/2023 6:33:00 AM PDT by pepsionice
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Gotta pay for all those illegal alien plane rides somehow...


11 posted on 09/12/2023 6:36:11 AM PDT by Yo-Yo (Is the /Sarc tag really necessary? Pray for President Biden: Psalm 109:8)
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When I joined in 1968 I was told I would have lifetime health care if I retired. I retired after 26 years. When I went to register with the VA I was told that I didn’t qualify for benefits because I made too much money. I guess if you are successful in life your military sacrifices are negated. Trump was well on the way to reforming the VA. Biden has pretty much destroyed all those reforms.


12 posted on 09/12/2023 6:39:59 AM PDT by SailormanCGA72
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I agree. I have always viewed it as a well-deserved benefit to those who served in the military. I used it to pay for my college education when I got out...it wasn’t much, but...it was enough to allow me to go to a state college.

This galls me. We send Billions to Ukraine, we give Billons to no-loads who won’t pay what they signed on a dotted line to honor, we give Billions to illegals who HATE this country and just want to suck the teat.

But we give the finger to veterans. Boy, does this make me burn.


13 posted on 09/12/2023 6:52:13 AM PDT by rlmorel ("If you think tough men are dangerous, just wait until you see what weak men are capable of." JBP)
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To: Salman
Military veterans tapping their Post-9/11 and Montgomery GI Bills for college can legally be granted fewer college benefits than they earned . . .

Yet Obiden and the democRATs have been pushing to expand educational opportunities for illegals--many of whom are military age males.

14 posted on 09/12/2023 6:53:46 AM PDT by DaBroasta ("An armed society is a polite society" Heinlein)
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To: pepsionice
I got essentially the same sort of advice from a financial planner that I used early on in my work career.
One of the main things he pushed was that you should never count on the government doing anything that it says it will do other than taxing you.
His main example was Social Security. The government likes to tell you how much better off you'll be if you wait until whatever number they're pushing that week to draw SS.
His go to answer was always..."Bullchit, give me the money now."
I.e, take your SS the first day that you're eligible to draw.
15 posted on 09/12/2023 7:00:57 AM PDT by skimbell
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To: Salman

Of course they did this on September 11th...


16 posted on 09/12/2023 7:14:04 AM PDT by PghBaldy (12/14/12 - 930am -rampage begins... 12/15/12 - 1030am - Obama team scouts photo-op locations.)
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My mom was an army nurse during WWII. In the early sixties when she decided to finish off her bachelor’s she was TOLD that she could use her VA benefits for the cost. Worked out well for her


17 posted on 09/12/2023 7:41:58 AM PDT by Nifster ( I see puppy dogs in the clouds )
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To: SailormanCGA72

My Dad had the best answer when the VA asked him how much he made.

“There wasn’t anybody standing by the gangplank of the troopship asking us how much money we made when we were loading to go to war.”


18 posted on 09/12/2023 7:48:30 AM PDT by blueunicorn6 ("A crack shot and a good dancer” )
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To: Salman

Oh and thank you for your service.


19 posted on 09/12/2023 7:50:29 AM PDT by pas
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My dad retired from the US Army in 1963. He fought the VA every day until his death in 1990. He won every battle, but it was always a long-drawn-out fight. He even testified before Congress twice in the 70’s.


20 posted on 09/12/2023 7:51:17 AM PDT by shotgun
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