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Was 9/11 The Beginning Of The End Of The American Empire?
The Federalist ^

Posted on 09/11/2023 2:09:39 PM PDT by FarCenter

Was 9/11 the beginning of the end for America? In the 22 years since the attacks, I’ve begun to worry that the answer to that question is “yes.”

It spawned the worst and most destructive foreign policy in the country’s history. The government response to 9/11 birthed the constitutional abomination that is the modern warrantless surveillance state. The Patriot Act enabled the government to weaponize its vast resources against its own people.

Bush’s failed foreign policy led directly to Obama’s presidency, and indirectly to Biden’s, both of which are responsible for diminishing the U.S. at home and abroad, militarily and economically. After two failed forever wars that wouldn’t have happened without 9/11, our government is now desperately trying to foment a potentially nuclear forever war against Russia.

Meanwhile, all the massive surveillance powers claimed by the U.S. after 9/11 are being ruthlessly deployed against American political enemies of the regime via the most insidious censorship-industrial complex the world has ever seen.

And then there’s the crippling legacy of debt enabled by America’s response to 9/11. Not content to spend trillions on poorly thought out invasions of Iraq and Afghanistan, our leaders spent as thoughtlessly at home, creating insane amounts of new entitlements, while doing nothing to put the country on a sound financial footing.

And where are we today? The ruling political party is criminalizing its opposition and attempting to throw its top political opponent and his supporters in prison, all under the guise of “democracy.”

While the national unity in the days after the towers fell was unfortunately fleeting, the changes to the country, its laws, and its leaders were not. Perhaps there’s no better example of this than watching the man who scoffed during a presidential debate at the notion of America engaging in global “nation-building” suddenly declare that it was America’s mission to spread democracy to the ends of the earth with the “ultimate goal of ending tyranny in our world.”


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9/11 is easily the most cost effective military operation in all of history.

I can't imagine that Al Qaeda spent more that a couple million dollars total on recruiting, training, equipping, and executing the attack on the World Trade Center and the Pentagon.

For that tiny sum, they caused the US to expend trillions of dollars on ineffective military actions.

The ratio of damage inflicted to cost of operation must approach a million to one.

1 posted on 09/11/2023 2:09:39 PM PDT by FarCenter
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To: FarCenter

It was the end. The open borders symbolize the vultures feeding off the dying country.


2 posted on 09/11/2023 2:12:42 PM PDT by Enterprise
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To: FarCenter

It totally changed our society and our relationship with our own government. Many Americans have been living in fear ever since, and have become easy to manipulate. It makes me sad. We are a very different country now, and I do not think we can get better without a very awful struggle.


3 posted on 09/11/2023 2:13:00 PM PDT by ClearCase_guy (They say "Our Democracy" but they mean Cosa Nostra.)
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To: FarCenter

All I know is the muzzies are sounding their BS “call to prayer” chimes right on ground zero. And I’ll bet that many NYers think it’s sweet.


4 posted on 09/11/2023 2:13:38 PM PDT by albie
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The Patriot Act enabled the government to weaponize its vast resources against its own people.

The Patriot Act did it. There was no need for it. Now our country is hopelessly divided. The FBI has turned into the Stasi.

5 posted on 09/11/2023 2:14:32 PM PDT by MinorityRepublican
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To: albie

Yes, because our government went full totalitarian.


6 posted on 09/11/2023 2:15:07 PM PDT by Roklok
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To: FarCenter
9/11 is easily the most cost effective military operation in all of history.

9/11 is one of the most successful attacks in history. The damage the United States has inflicted on itself (huge deficits, open borders, moral collapse) has been about a million times greater than the attack itself.

7 posted on 09/11/2023 2:15:23 PM PDT by Right_Wing_Madman
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To: FarCenter

No. The day they stole an election was.


8 posted on 09/11/2023 2:17:27 PM PDT by bigbob (Q)
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9/11 is one of the most successful attacks in history. The damage the United States has inflicted on itself (huge deficits, open borders, moral collapse)

If true, then we were just like the Soviet Union back in the '80s. On paper, we were strong. But the rot was quite deep.

9 posted on 09/11/2023 2:17:42 PM PDT by MinorityRepublican
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To: bigbob

It ended for good, when Obama was installed.


10 posted on 09/11/2023 2:17:59 PM PDT by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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To: FarCenter

The beginning of the end was when Bill Clinton was elected in 1992. The policies (or lack thereof) in response to 9/11 certainly helped expedite the fall of the empire.


11 posted on 09/11/2023 2:20:21 PM PDT by Mozzafiato
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To: FarCenter
It'll be known (along with its 911 benghazi cousin) as the beginning of the end of the Deep State Cabal.


12 posted on 09/11/2023 2:21:10 PM PDT by C210N (We're at war: Make them have to cheat so much it becomes comical, then ridicule them into oblivion.)
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No. It was when they elected Woodrow Wilson.

Twice.

13 posted on 09/11/2023 2:23:02 PM PDT by Harmless Teddy Bear (Keep America Beautiful by keeping Canadian Trash Out. Deport Jennifer Granholm!)
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To: FarCenter

Those vermin achieved a lot. We all have had to change our behavior after tens of millions of dollars lost in air travel, retail and hotel income and having to hire and maintain checking at airports. Also that shoe bomber guy caused everyone to remove their shoes, for example. Worse is a report today that more first responders have died from illness since 9/11 than the total who died on 9/11 in the towers and other direct crashes.


14 posted on 09/11/2023 2:23:11 PM PDT by frank ballenger (You have summoned up a thundercloud. You're gonna hear from me. Anthem by Leonard Cohen)
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To: FarCenter

Universal voting was the beginning of the end of Western domination. Our countries were never designed for that.


15 posted on 09/11/2023 2:23:27 PM PDT by BobL (I eat at McDonald's and shop at Walmart, I just don't tell anyone)
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A draw in Korea was the beginning of the end. Then a loss in Viet Nam. Then the Iran Hostage situation. By 9-11 we were already over.


16 posted on 09/11/2023 2:24:37 PM PDT by discostu (like a dog being shown a card trick)
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Destroyed from within began long before 911(central banking, corporatism, monopolize institutions of media/academia...)...

The (s)election of Obama/Biden just showed how weakened the foundation has become...the blame lies at the feet of the lethargic sheeple.

"a Republic...if you can keep it"

All that sacrifice to build....not a shot fired to save it from...the parasites.

17 posted on 09/11/2023 2:26:24 PM PDT by RckyRaCoCo (Please Pray For My Brother Ken.)
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To: FarCenter

I say 9/11 was the day the country came together. The real beginning of the end was on January 4, 2007, when John Boehner handed the speaker of the House gavel over to Nancy Pelosi. It’s been a downward spiral since.


18 posted on 09/11/2023 2:26:31 PM PDT by al_c (Democrats: Party over Common Sense)
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To: Enterprise

they needed a generated crisis to enact homeland security


19 posted on 09/11/2023 2:28:15 PM PDT by ronnie raygun
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Bush’s failed foreign policy led directly to Obama’s presidency

Nonsense. It was the democRATinspired housing /financial crisis.

20 posted on 09/11/2023 2:30:23 PM PDT by rfp1234 (E Porcibus Unum )
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