Posted on 09/08/2023 3:28:37 AM PDT by dennisw
Elon Musk admits preventing Ukrainian attack on Russia by refusing access to Starlink 'to avoid being complicit in a major act of war' - but furious Kyiv says his 'big ego' led to civilians being killed
Musk says he refused Kyiv's request to activate Starlink satellites over Crimea He refutes claim that he cut the connection, however, saying it was not active
Elon Musk has admitted to thwarting a major Ukrainian attack, enraging officials in Kyiv who have blamed him for the deaths of children and 'committing evil'.
The billionaire CEO of Tesla, X (formerly Twitter) and Space X was accused in a new book of cutting off Ukraine's access to Starlink over the Crimean coast to prevent an attack on the Russian naval fleet.
Responding to the accusation, Musk said that while he did not order engineers to switch off the satellite system, he did refuse Kyiv's request to turn it on because - he said - he wanted to 'avoid being complicit in a major act of war.'
The world's richest man began providing free access to Space X's Starlink internet terminals in the early days of the Russian invasion in February 2022, which have been vital in allowing Ukrainians to communicate and coordinate their resistance.
But, at the end of last year, his enthusiasm began to wane, and he became increasingly concerned about taking sides - ultimately ordering that the internet be shut down to stop a 'kamikaze drone' submarine attack on Russian warships.
(Excerpt) Read more at dailymail.co.uk ...
Vlad’s Squalid Squaddie—
Your recycled revanchist rooskie arse kissing bs is tiresome. You have worn very deep grooves in your roooskie record collection. Such that it is. And it ain’t very much.
Psycho-Tsar Vlad invaded Ukraine. Vlad is the warmonger. As large as Russia is (11 time zones!), like all jumped up psychos, Vlad wants more more more. More Russia. A larger Russia of 12 time zones.
With Russia preoccupied with Ukraine. Really, Xi ought to attack and invade Russia's East, or just send hoards of unarmed Chinese over that border. To take back South Siberian lands that were Chinese ruled for eons. -
The feds whine about Musk if the stop wasting money on illegals and other money pits they could have many Starlink satellites.
Ask the Japanese how Pearl Harbor turned out for them.
By slow-walking approval on SpaceX Starship (which Musk needs to lift the next generation of Starlink satellites) the FAA is trying to cripple SpaceX.
The feds want full control of everything Musk is in the way and they don’t like it.
Hat tip to Musk
The original claim was made in a new biography, out on September 15, in which Musk asked author Walter Isaacson: ‘How am I in this war?’
‘Starlink was not meant to be involved in wars. It was so people can watch Netflix and chill and get online for school and do good peaceful things, not drone strikes.’
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Musk was relieved he had prevented what he believed could have been a ‘mini Pearl Harbor,’ the author said.
The decision, the book claims, was driven by a concern that a Ukrainian attack would lead to a Russian response on Crimea with nuclear weapons. That fear was spurred by Musk’s conversations with Russian officials.
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His motivations are peaceful. The world doesn’t need a nuclear war. Where are the negotiations for a peaceful settlement?
“Yeah, “Better Red than Dead!””
Idiotic reply.
In no way is there a threat from Russia to make either the US or any of Elon’s many companies subject to communist control. There is however a real possibility that a nuclear weapons exchange will end the lives of millions.
The choice is not “be a commonest or be dead” as the phrase implies. The choice is millions possibly being dead...or not.
Elon chose ...not.
“Musk is obviously too erratic to depend on in a war.”
Who says he has to be?
You?
Who is Musk at war with?
Musk is a US citizen. Who is the US at war with?
Has he been somehow drafted by the Ukraine government?
How is Musk obligated or expected be depended on in a war anywhere?
The "choice" I was mocking is, in fact, a False Dilemma.
In reality, the two major alternatives are:
1. Give in to Putin's demands, no matter how odious or immoral, or
2. Do what is right.
Russia unilaterally invaded the sovereign nation of Ukraine, and has thus forfeited all semblance of the "Rule of Law."
Putin's Russia must never come away from this with the impression that its unlawful behavior has been rewarded.
Regards,
The US is also preoccupied with Ukraine giving China a free hand, except Russia is doing their dirty work for them showing up the utter incompetence of US military planning to American and to the rest of the world except the rah rah go nuclear armageddon fools like yourself.
But Musk denied the Ukrainian military the use of his Starlink network. When Musk switched the internet off, the drones, strapped with explosives, 'lost connectivity and washed ashore harmlessly,' Isaacson writes.
When in truth, Starlink had never been extended to Sevastopol. The Ukrainian army asked that it be extended, and Starlink said no. No one ever "turned the internet off", because it had never been turned on, at least according to Starlink and Musk. But the truth isn't as good a story as the preferred spin.
"Yeah, we wanted Starlink to extend coverage to Sevastopol to enable our internet-connected drone subs to attack the Russian fleet, and the big meanies said no." Just doesn't have the same ring to it as the lie.
Since when are US companies supposed to participate in attacks on foreign countries with whom the United Stats is not at war?
right, you are full of BS as usual
that cost starlink several million $$$ and musk had to put a stop it it, or have the DOD pay for the service
Your explosion of emotion and rage is shocking.
These people are wired strangely. They seem to crave nuclear war.
They think they do, anyway.
I think your choices are lacking some minor details.
“1. Give in to Putin’s demands, no matter how odious or immoral, or
2. Do what is right, and risk nuclear antihalation of millions of people over a European country we have no national security interest in.
Doing what’s “right” policy would have us involved in and taking sides in EVERY armed conflict on the planet, costing billion and sacrificing thousands of American lives.
Just no.
“Russia unilaterally invaded the sovereign nation of Ukraine, and has thus forfeited all semblance of the “Rule of Law.”
Putin’s Russia must never come away from this with the impression that its unlawful behavior has been rewarded”
Agreed on all of that.
So are you OK with the US being the “International Law Enforcement” for Europe?
I’m not.
Europeans should enforce “International Law” in Europe.
It’s not or our business.
And the hero of the WOT, Cheney is cheering it all on. I have no idea what their theory of victory looks like or what they aim to do to achieve it. I do know that the Russians are handing us a pretty picture of their theory of us being a bunch of lazy, incompetent bullying losers looks like. It looks like the pride of UK their Centurian Tank buring in an anonymous field on an anonymous part of the great Eurasian Steppe that has been the downfall of Western and Eastern Armies since the Ancient Persians.
Oh baloney. Haven't you been paying attention to anything?? Musk has become a major enemy of the deep state because he's been exposing them on x/twitter. That's why they're attacking him. And you're carrying their water by labeling him a Putin stooge.
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