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'Strategic Bombing' of Russia Integral to Ukraine's Offensive: Ex-General
Newsweek ^ | August 30, 2023 | David Brennan

Posted on 08/30/2023 2:06:33 PM PDT by canuck_conservative

Drone attacks on Russian territory have become an almost daily occurrence in recent weeks....

Hodges, who has been one of Kyiv's most vocal advocates in the U.S., said in an interview on Monday that the growing drone threat "is a part of the counteroffensive" that is currently raging in southeastern Ukraine. There, Ukrainian troops are pushing into Russian fortified lines, hoping to precipitate a defensive collapse....

"You've got what I would call 'strategic bombing,'" he added. The campaign has seen "drone strikes that have hit Moscow several nights in a row as well as other places throughout Russia, by Ukrainian drone operators and perhaps sabotage happening in Russian controlled areas, going after munitions plants, oil storage areas, these kinds of things."...

"They don't have a coherent command structure, that they hate each other up there, and the best commanders are either dead or in jail now and the most loyal ones remain in office despite their incompetence," Hodges said of the Russian military....

"The great Black Sea Fleet doesn't want to get within 100 miles of Ukrainian coasts right now," Hodges said. "They're terrified of anti-ship missiles and Ukrainian maritime drones. And Ukraine doesn't even have a navy."

"The great Russian air force has not been able to destroy a train or convoy bringing equipment and ammunition from Poland into Ukraine in 18 months. That's because of the very good air defense, as well as Russian inability; they've failed to ever achieve air superiority."...

(Excerpt) Read more at newsweek.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Extended News; News/Current Events; Russia; Ukraine; War
KEYWORDS: 7yearwar; davidbrennan; dronestrikes; hennybodges; itistolaugh; neoconstooges; newsweak; pummeledsackofmeat; putinsblunder; russialosing; warporn; wwiii
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To: Reverend Wright

Equivalency Fail.

The V weapons were area-targeted at population centers.

The UKR drones are much more accurate, specifically targeted at C&C and strategic weapons.

Maybe Russia shouldn’t have bombed UKR civilian infrastructure for the last 2 years?

No sympathy.


21 posted on 08/30/2023 2:49:42 PM PDT by Justa (If where you came from is so great then why aren't Floridians moving there?)
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To: TonyinLA

“How many more of your Uke cousins do you wish to see 6 feet buried?”

Tell me you’re not an American without telling me you’re not an American.


22 posted on 08/30/2023 2:50:35 PM PDT by MeganC (There is nothing feminine about feminism. )
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To: PGR88

“What will happen when the same occurs in Washington DC?”

Washington hasn’t bombed Russia. But if DC is targeted it probably should respond in kind. Just like the UKRs are doing to Russia as the Russians did to them for the past 2 years.


23 posted on 08/30/2023 2:51:20 PM PDT by Justa (If where you came from is so great then why aren't Floridians moving there?)
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To: PGR88; canuck_conservative

“What will happen when the same occurs in Washington DC?”

One thing for sure is if Russia starts directly waging war against the USA it will suddenly be a very good idea to stop shilling for Russia on the internet.


24 posted on 08/30/2023 2:54:30 PM PDT by MeganC (There is nothing feminine about feminism. )
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To: Kazan
ISIS-like terrorist attacks on Russian civilians

y u mad, bro?

you Russian stooges wanted a war ... you got what you wanted

you should be happy!


25 posted on 08/30/2023 2:55:24 PM PDT by canuck_conservative (there would be no more need for NATO, if Russia could just stop attacking its neighbors)
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To: Reverend Wright

The P.R. significance far outweighs Amy military significance. If it kills random citizens and civilians it will terrorize the general populace and make headlines. I think Putin does not survive to end this invasion.


26 posted on 08/30/2023 2:59:35 PM PDT by desertsolitaire (w)
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To: canuck_conservative

I am of the opinion that this is not a good strategy. The focus needs to be on destroying Russian troops and equipment inside Ukrainian borders.


27 posted on 08/30/2023 3:03:41 PM PDT by taxcontrol (The choice is clear - either live as a slave on your knees or die as a free citizen on your feet.)
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To: Reverend Wright; marcusmaximus; Paul R.; Bruce Campbells Chin; PIF; familyop; MercyFlush; tet68; ...

Ukraine ping

RW: [This is about as militarily significant as the V1 and V2 rocket attacks on the UK.]


Very different. The German attacks were militarily significant in that they were good for diverting British resources towards air defense. Unfortunately for the Germans, they were otherwise ineffectual because they seldom hit industrial or military targets, due to the rudimentary nature of their targeting systems. Whereas the Ukrainian drones and missiles are precisely targeted, due to technology available now but not during WW2. And they serve the secondary function of diverting Russian resources towards air defense - cash that would otherwise be used towards supplying, arming or training their invasion force in Ukraine.

War is a combo of keeping morale high and setting vast sums of money on fire. Striking at military installations, ammo dumps and military aircraft in Russia keeps Ukrainian morale going, retards the Russian war effort and sets billions of rubles’ worth of Russian gear on fire. A real trifecta.


28 posted on 08/30/2023 3:09:31 PM PDT by Zhang Fei (My dad had a Delta 88. That was a car. It was like driving your living room)
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To: desertsolitaire

“If it kills random citizens and civilians it will terrorize the general populace and make headlines.”


That’s what Hitler thought the V1 and V2 would do. All it did was make the UK population more determined than ever.

Only the mighty “conservatives” of the 2023 West are cowed by threats or random attacks.


29 posted on 08/30/2023 3:11:17 PM PDT by Reverend Wright ( Everything touched by progressives, dies !)
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To: MeganC; canuck_conservative

I have no doubt you would enjoy a nice, big war between the USA and Russia.


30 posted on 08/30/2023 3:13:13 PM PDT by PGR88
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To: Justa
Washington hasn’t bombed Russia

Right. Washington only put the Ukraine government in power, gave it the weapons, and gave it targeting info.

So what's to stop Russia giving Cuba same offensive capabilities, under the same asinine pretext?

31 posted on 08/30/2023 3:16:43 PM PDT by PGR88
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To: MeganC

If Russia landed an army on US shores I would to tempted to view them as liberators. The US has become an evil place. No decent person can support the US government or any of its institutions.


32 posted on 08/30/2023 3:21:39 PM PDT by Fai Mao (Starve the beast and steal its food!)
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To: canuck_conservative

There are severe weaknesses in Ukraine to take down a nuclear armed missile.


33 posted on 08/30/2023 3:24:48 PM PDT by entropy12 (Career politicians like Desantis build wealth. Trump sacrificed his wealth to serve people. GO TRUMP)
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To: Petrosius
Ukraine, on its part, passed the law granting Donbas autonomy and had plans for the required referendum, which Russia blocked.

You do a good job making up history. Ukraine did exactly the opposite when their legislature passed the Donbass reintegration bill in January 2018, prohibiting any autonomy for Donetsk and Luhansk. This measure buried the Minsk agreement for good.

Ukraine Moves To Restore Control Over Separatist-Held Areas
https://www.rferl.org/a/ukrainian-parliament-passes-donbas-reintegration-bill/28982677.html

34 posted on 08/30/2023 3:27:12 PM PDT by Right_Wing_Madman
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To: Zhang Fei

The V2 program was a failure. The rockets were cool, but without guidance or a nuke, they had no significance. It cost the equivalent of the Manhattan Project, and it’s effect of explosives delivered equaled a grand total of 3 of the thousand plane raids that Bomber Command and the 8th Air Force delivered several times a week by late in the war.

And it has the distinction of killing more of it’s own workers than victims.

The German mentality screwed them again. Tinkering with gadgets and whizzy things that would really matter 10-15 years after the war and ignoring important things right in front of them.

Glad they did it their own Teutonic way.


35 posted on 08/30/2023 3:29:15 PM PDT by DesertRhino (Dogs are called man's best friend. Moslems hate dogs. Add it up..)
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To: Fai Mao
I think the elites big mistake leading to this war was their assumption that Russia would be as complacent and docile as the American slaves have proven to be under the rule of their Washington masters. But to your point, while not considering the Russians to be saints, they are at least fighting on the side of national sovereignty and against that hideous strength that is the globalist cabal in Washington/Brussels. And that makes them allies to any God-fearing, freedom-loving people in the present age.

Never thought I'd come to that viewpoint, but I never expected Donald Trump to be our one great hope in politics either.

36 posted on 08/30/2023 3:46:09 PM PDT by EnderWiggin1970
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To: canuck_conservative

I believe the Russians were using S300 missiles for bombardment, not the new S400 ones. As the Russians seem to have mostly replaced their S300 systems with S400’s, at least in European Russia, the S300’s are available for other uses.

It makes sense, given the Russians scarce resources, to repurpose a redundant resource they have a lot of.

Besides being a not very accurate bombardment missile, it could have served a purpose in inducing the Ukrainians to waste their own SAMs on them. I dont know if this happened, but looking at it from the Russian POV it was worth a try.

That said, neither S300 nor S400 are any good at intercepting low flying drones that dont give much of a radar signature. Those SAMs were made for a very different category of target.


37 posted on 08/30/2023 3:50:37 PM PDT by buwaya (Strategic imperatives )
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To: ganeemead

Kiev bombing Russia would only go to make the Russian People want vengeance-—and the use of everything short of Nukes—Like a blanket of cluster bombs on Kiev or blow every bridge and railroad station in the nation. Target infrastructure, schools, hospitals and government buildings. Just make things worse for all. Did Bombing Germany into ruins end the war? No. It just made them fight harder.


38 posted on 08/30/2023 3:51:56 PM PDT by Forward the Light Brigade ( Ride to the sound of the Guns!)
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To: PGR88

UKR elected their government.

Russia didn’t like that.

Russia invaded UKR

The US helps UKR defend against Russian invasion and aggression.

Russia is clearly the aggressor, the invader, the attacker. Arming a nation defending itself against a belligerent is defensive. Arming an attacker is offensive.

One leads to peace, the other war. If you can’t tell the difference then you are not credible or respectable.


39 posted on 08/30/2023 3:52:03 PM PDT by Justa (If where you came from is so great then why aren't Floridians moving there?)
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To: PGR88

“I have no doubt you would enjoy a nice, big war between the USA and Russia.”

Obviously if the Ruskies can’t do any better than in Ukraine it wouldn’t last long. They wouldn’t dare.


40 posted on 08/30/2023 3:52:59 PM PDT by amnestynone (We are asked by people who do not tolerate us to tolerate the intolerable in the name of tolerance.)
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