Posted on 08/23/2023 5:08:04 PM PDT by Alter Kaker
Wagner Group commander Dmitry Utkin was reportedly among the 10 people killed in a plane crash north of Moscow that also is believed to have claimed the life of Yevgeny Prigozhin.
Utkin, a former Russian military intelligence officer, has Nazi tattoos on his body. He helped co-found the militant group and came up with the name “Wagner,” which derived from Adolf Hilter’s favorite composer, Richard Wagner.
According to reports, Utkin and Prigozhin were just two of Wagner's top men who were listed as passengers on the flight.
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“...but you both still refuse to acknowledge that the invasion took place because Ukraine’s Nazis were attacking Russian speaking Ukrainian citizens...”
You have your timeline wrong: Azov got involved in response to aggression by pro-Russian separatists, armed and supplied by Russia, and AFTER Russia first invaded Ukraine in February, 2014.
If they really were neo-Nazis, I doubt you people would have a problem with them.
Glad to see Putin’s de Nazification efforts, after a rocky start, are finally yielding results now that he has killed Dmitry Utkin. Is Kadyrov next?
Sorry, I forget i’m on FR, not Twitter. the GAE is the Globalist American Empire
WHAT??? can't he be both at the same time?
Oh look a Nazi crawled onto the thread! Maybe you can crawl back into whatever hole you crawled out of.
That’s an excellent point and one I have to admit I did not consider.
Yep, that was the codename attached to the operation of secreting in Nazis unbeknownst to the citizens of our nation.
“Where is your concern for the citizens of Maui...?”
That is a non-sequitur, and a strawman. The discussion was about Russian and Ukrainian Nazis.
Or, just to stir the pot, the CIA got payback for his scamming them out of $6 billion and screwing up the anti Putin putsch.
:-)
I don’t think the fellows aesthetic choices made him a Nazi. A thug, a theif, a murderer, sure.
Same goes for the Ukrainians.
This stuff seems to me more an expression of alienation, to epater les bourgeois. Your usual skinhead with all the right tattoos is not going to be able to explain a theory of the state consistent with his symbols. He just wants to annoy people.
The problem is that unless one wants to do a philosophical deep dive it’s not correct to define anyone or anything as “nazi”, or even “fascist”.
Orwell’s classic piece on fascists - recited by TIK, a guy who has done a lot of deep dives.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=05FFux4uPd8&pp=ygUKVGlrIG9yd2VsbA%3D%3D
But who is a “neo-nazi”?
Everyone has his own pet enemies, which many people are happy to call nazis. These days, with nearly every country on earth being some sort of mixed economy, one can reasonably argue that we are all fascists now.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=05FFux4uPd8&pp=ygUKVGlrIG9yd2VsbA%3D%3D
But nice try.
The best explanation for the current US social war was that of the late Angelo Codevilla. This is a caste, or class, war between parts of the US population. Divergent interests. culture and values create social tribes that cannot help but be at odds.
https://www.independent.org/publications/article.asp?id=4725
Do you really believe that lie?
Nice try.
You introduced Maui into a discussion that had nothing at all to do with it; what’s more, the discussion had nothing to do with paying Maui residents, or Ukrainian pensions, etc., even in the context of your other observations. Thus, your comment was a non-sequitur, and your examples were strawmen.
The discussion was about Nazis, particularly within the Russian Wagner Group; and, by comparison, within the Ukrainian Azov bunch.
If you want to discuss Maui — and it’s a valid topic that deserves its own thread — then start a thread. I agree with you that FEMA’s $700 per household “critical needs” payment — which is just a one-time allowance — is insulting. But it has nothing to do with the topic at hand.
What about these American military guys? Is the USA full of Nazis and in need of invasion?
Interesting that their screen name is unread.
It’s either a testament to their present state of being or a foreshadowing of what will happen to their links.
If they actually links back to anti-Jewish propaganda, then unread needs to move on. They are posting on the wrong forum. There are plenty of Jewish patriots on FR, including those with Ashkenazi blood.
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