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Travis Ikeguchi, 27, made anti-LGBTQ posts before shooting dead California shop owner Laura Ann Carleton over her Pride flag
Daily Mail UK ^ | 08 21 2023 | Harriet Alexander and Alex Hammer

Posted on 08/21/2023 9:39:45 PM PDT by yesthatjallen

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To: Eleutheria5

They’ll still make it out as white supremacy, homo-phobia, a MAGA Trump supporter.

The MSM invents the news, they don’t report it.

And if it don’t fit their narrative, then it’s dis/mis information or propaganda.

Usually, in cases like this, there is a lot more to it. There are homo flags everywhere, why there and then? You can’t get a coffee, go to a school, watch TV, go to a department store, government office without this flag getting pushed down your throat. Why there and then? The likely scenario is that there was some other issue that was causing the altercation and the homo flag simply became something he latched onto.

But never let a crisis go to waste. In our victim society where we still endlessly talk about a abortion clinic bomber from 30 years ago because it fits the abortion narrative, this WILL get pushed hard.


21 posted on 08/21/2023 11:32:20 PM PDT by Red6
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To: No name given

An article I read said the victim was not a member of the LGBTQ+ community, was married to a man and was the mother of nine children, so yes she was a woman in every sense of the word.


22 posted on 08/21/2023 11:38:28 PM PDT by caseinpoint (Don't get thickly involved in thin things.)
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To: Red6
exactly

the "news" is so bad, for all we know there could be a lot more to the story like for example, the victim could have got him fired from his career over the lame facebook posts, caused him to lose his house, car, girlfriend etc , but I doubt they would tell us that part of the story

23 posted on 08/21/2023 11:43:53 PM PDT by KTM rider (Be Alert Stay Calm Think Clearly Act Decisively )
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To: Paladin2

Opium Wars?

Not a Japanese problem. They too sold opium in China.


24 posted on 08/21/2023 11:55:57 PM PDT by buwaya (Strategic imperatives )
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To: Robert DeLong

He looks mixed race.


25 posted on 08/21/2023 11:57:23 PM PDT by buwaya (Strategic imperatives )
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To: yesthatjallen
A couple of odd things about the story, which has been amplified many times in order to heighten the "hate" theme.

The first is that he, the "shooter," was on foot after leaving the shooting. Seems an odd thing, and especially odd as there are indications he exchanged gun fire with officers. Suicide by police?

Second, in a social media comment he claimed to have lived in Florida "for twenty years." So how did the family get to Lake Arrowhead? It is an issue about Ikeguchi's family specifically because one reads a couple of details:

The Sheriff noted that the handgun found on Ikeguchi was believed to be the same weapon used to murder Carleton adding that semiautomatic pistol was not registered to him, and he did not have a license to carry a concealed weapon.

Dicus also said during Monday's media briefing that Ikeguchi’s family had reported him missing the day previous to the shooting.

Source: Source: https://www.losangelesblade.com/2023/08/21/suspect-in-murder-of-store-owner-over-pride-flag-identified/

Los Angeles Blade, above, is an "LGBTQ News Source," according to its banner. So the "reported him missing" is something the LA Blade thought worth including in their article, though the larger news sources did not, as best I read it.

Why was he reported "missing" if an adult and 27 years old? Why would the local police receive such a report if missing only for a day> What would have been a cause for concern by a "family" to make such a report?

On foot apparently, he had to had walked from the Glen, up 173 parallel to Papoose Lake and into Torrey from there, where,,,,

Ikeguchi fled Carleton's store, Mag Pi, by foot and was later killed in “a lethal force encounter" with deputies Friday. He fired at multiple patrol vehicles with an unregistered semi-automatic handgun before officials fatally shot him, Dicus said.

Source: https://www.nbcnews.com/nbc-out/out-news/suspect-named-fatal-shooting-california-store-owner-pride-flag-rcna101085

Another detail which suggests "suicide by police" behavior. And if the family "reported him missing" there could have been psychiatric issues. More will be known if the story is further reported.

But the media is having a field day associating a murderer killed in “a lethal force encounter" with deputies after shooting at "multiple patrol vehicles" after WALKING away from a crime with Christianity.

The major media have amplified this theme, as if a Christian killed, when we all would agree a true Christian would not.

But an individual with mental health issues would.

26 posted on 08/22/2023 12:34:15 AM PDT by Worldtraveler once upon a time (Degrow government)
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To: yesthatjallen

Not a white Christian nationalist, huh?


27 posted on 08/22/2023 2:30:14 AM PDT by Recovering_Democrat
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To: yesthatjallen

And CWII foes merrily alonf with the dead toll adding up.


28 posted on 08/22/2023 2:45:36 AM PDT by joma89 (Buy weapons and ammo, folks, and have the will to use them.)
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To: Worldtraveler once upon a time

(But the media is having a field day)

Yeah

No one supports him taking it to that level


29 posted on 08/22/2023 2:49:30 AM PDT by SaveFerris (Luke 17:28 ... as it was in the days of Lot; they did eat, they drank, they bought, they sold ......)
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To: gundog

The Nashville Tranifesto is still not public...


30 posted on 08/22/2023 2:55:52 AM PDT by outofsalt (If history teaches us anything, it's that history rarely teaches anything.)
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To: Recovering_Democrat
Because of the economic and academic success of East Asian Americans, the liberals have been considering them as white so they can use affirmative action against them at Ivy League universities and elsewhere. Remember that the mixed race man, George Zimmerman, who had clearly mestizo features and who killed Trayvon Martin in self defense, was called a white Hispanic. So, like the Nazis and South African whites, liberals consider Chinese, Japanese, and Korean Americans honorary whites.
31 posted on 08/22/2023 2:56:49 AM PDT by Wallace T.
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To: yesthatjallen

Sure didn’t take the media long to print all of his posts and supposed beliefs. Still waiting months and months for these transgendered types and their manifestos.


32 posted on 08/22/2023 3:05:59 AM PDT by Mashood
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To: reasonisfaith

Re: 5 - LOL.

Only from a conspiracy theorist.


33 posted on 08/22/2023 3:09:06 AM PDT by Fury
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To: No name given

Yes and weirdly married to a guy. They even had children. She just supported the community. And now she nor he are here anymore.


35 posted on 08/22/2023 3:49:01 AM PDT by napscoordinator (DeSantis is a beast! Florida is the freest state in the country! )
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To: yesthatjallen

WAIT FOR IT:

“WHITE” Japanese man....


36 posted on 08/22/2023 3:56:36 AM PDT by LeonardFMason
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To: Responsibility2nd

white guy aka asian


37 posted on 08/22/2023 3:57:01 AM PDT by ronnie raygun
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To: yesthatjallen

“Travis Ikeguchi, 27, made anti-LGBTQ posts before shooting dead California shop owner...”

Why did he shoot a dead shop owner?


38 posted on 08/22/2023 4:20:37 AM PDT by Brooklyn Attitude (I went to bed on November 3rd 2020 and woke up in 1984.)
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To: yesthatjallen

Some people compare the Gay rainbow flag with Hitler’s NAZI German Flag.

Instead of Jews being thrown in boxcars, they see straight people being thrown in the ovens by homosexual prison guards.

Such is the symbol of the “pride” flag.


39 posted on 08/22/2023 4:26:21 AM PDT by Flavious_Maximus (Tony Fauci will be put on death row and die of COVID!)
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To: KTM rider

Most journalists are liberal and lean pro-democrat, about 85% of them.

Of the 6 major media conglomerates, 5 are aligned Democrat and 1 Republican (and Republican does not mean Trump). ~90% of what the average American sees or hears in terms of media comes from them.

Most social media is strongly pro-democrat because it’s the Republicans calling for the break up of monopolies like Meta. It’s Republicans that are more tough regards China and all of big tech depends on China as their manufacturing base may it be Cisco, HP, Dell, Apple...

Hollywood has been libtard for a long time. The same is true with the music industry. So entertainment has constant pro liberal messaging in it.

Just like most the government was conservative and favored their candidates in the 50s and 60s, today most of the government bureaucracy is liberal, infected with woke ideology, senior leaders that have chosen sides, and realizing that they benefit from a party which wants more spending, growth in regulations and government powers.

You have a COMPLETE one sided media world and on those issues where government and corporate interests converge, you can forget any semblance of reality in how it’s covered, example: Covid, Ukraine, Trump. What you get in the West today is lower quality than the state controlled media in the former East block. Radio Moscow and Pravda were very worried about their credibility and while they spun things to the parties advantage, they at least stayed factual which isn’t the case anymore with MSNBC, CNN...

The MSM is owned by the same oligarchs that own the big corporations, example Bezos who owns the Washington Post, Gates that has influence on MSNBC... Even if not outright owned, the media is beholden to them because of advertising money.

If you’re a Trump and you start screwing with China trade (restrictions and tariffs), mess with big pharma by putting in place cost controls, start cutting on green subsidies which are really just kickbacks for the big corporations which support various candidates and parties, expect a full outright media onslaught. The media will attack you relentlessly because they really just represent the interests of big corporate America, all of them: https://youtu.be/QAkQlZgnbUQ


40 posted on 08/22/2023 4:42:57 AM PDT by Red6
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