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Pence 'would expect' Meadows to have known about 'standing order' to declassify documents
Washington Examiner ^

Posted on 08/20/2023 1:41:09 PM PDT by GulliverSwift

Former Vice President Mike Pence said he “would expect” former White House chief of staff Mark Meadows to have known about an order from former President Donald Trump to declassify documents before leaving the White House.

Pence's comment's come after Meadows reportedly told investigators in Special Counsel Jack Smith’s office that he didn't remember Trump having a “standing order” to declassify documents as they left the White House, per ABC News on Sunday.

"I would expect so," Pence said on ABC News's This Week on Sunday when asked if he believes Meadows would have known about a declassification order, "But again, I sure hope we're not getting back into the lane of leaks from the justice department about these cases."

Pence pointed to the special counsel investigation into President Joe Biden’s handling of classified documents, saying, “We haven't heard a peep out of that.”


TOPICS: Editorial; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: judaspence; nevertrumpexaminer; pence
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To: GulliverSwift

It’s so weird that there’s not a stitch of evidence from anyone, anywhere that Trump declassified anything.


21 posted on 08/20/2023 2:19:55 PM PDT by babble-on
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To: iontheball

There still has to be some sort of something saying he did it.

Merely thinking it, including ex post, is not sufficient.


22 posted on 08/20/2023 2:20:58 PM PDT by babble-on
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To: GulliverSwift

Why the heck did Pence have documents he shouldn’t have?


23 posted on 08/20/2023 2:22:25 PM PDT by Chgogal (Welcome to Fuhrer Biden's Weaponized Fascist Banana Republic! It's the road to hell.)
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To: XRdsRev

This is an Article II case and that’s all it is.

The blowback from killing JFK put pressure on the CIA to find another way to eliminate a President who could eliminate them. Hence the “independent counsel” invention from Nixon’s DOJ, the idea that there are, or even could be, officers appointed by the President - you know, as in “Executive power is vested in a President of the United States” that are not subject to his commands - an obvious absurdity.

The gaslighting around “Watergate” has had such a strong effect that entire government departments rallied to eliminate the duly elected 45th President without having to blow his brains out and cover it up.

And that’s where we are.


24 posted on 08/20/2023 2:28:49 PM PDT by Jim Noble (He who saves the nation breaks no law)
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To: GulliverSwift

The ELEPHANT in the room is the transfer of these documents! If a person touches a document that is at the classification in these talking points - WHO signed for them and WHO did they transfer to? This is ALL BS. A person working at the White Hut with an active security clearance could not just transfer Top Secret documents like what is being portrayed in the national propagandist media. Pence HAD classified documents in his possession! Biden had classified documents in his possession! Hillary had classified documents in her possession! All of these people were not prosecuted. President Trump is being harassed by a Democrat operation. The national media is poisoning a jury pool with incessant talking points that he is guilty of multiple crimes. It is a 24/7 operation of putting out false demoncrat talking points to try him in the public arena. There is no way on earth at this point that President Trump could receive a fair trial! The media is a constant barrage of false information regarding these trials/charges. Pence should just shut his pie hole and crawl back to his home in the land of the Hoosiers. The more Pence talks the less likable he becomes. He is a swamp rat that doesn’t have a chance of ever being elected again. He ought to see the light.


25 posted on 08/20/2023 2:32:01 PM PDT by missnry (The truth will set you free ... and drive liberals crazy!)
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To: missnry

When they realized they had them they returned them immediately. And if the archived discovered something missing they made requests that were complied with.

Trump by contrast was asked repeatedly for a year, never complying. That actually is the important difference difference.


26 posted on 08/20/2023 2:36:30 PM PDT by babble-on
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To: Alberta's Child
“ That's all true. The problem is that there would have to be some kind of formal notice in order for someone other than the President to have an assurance that they were operating without any legal risk.”

I am so sick of this! Where is the documentation of the previous Presidents? Let's use their actions as precedence. This Deep State BS is unacceptable and I abhor you and the rest of the Deep State putting the country through this.

https://www.wbez.org/stories/whats-that-building-why-this-hoffman-estates-warehouse-stores-barack-obamas-presidential-papers/403ad644-8934-4ee6-85d9-97812af484e6

“More than 20 truck loads of papers were brought from Washington D.C. to this shuttered Plunckett furniture store in Hoffman Estates in early 2017.”

27 posted on 08/20/2023 2:37:57 PM PDT by Chgogal (Welcome to Fuhrer Biden's Weaponized Fascist Banana Republic! It's the road to hell.)
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To: Flaming Conservative

There is plenty out there. Go look. Venture out and discover the vast Internet of information at your fingertips.


28 posted on 08/20/2023 2:37:59 PM PDT by CodeToad (No Arm up! They have!)
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To: sunny bonobo

“Trump is the one who said he had a standing order and Kash Patel backs that up. Now whether Kash will back that up under oath, I hope so.”

If Trump says there was a standing order then there was one. Verification is not needed, legally.


29 posted on 08/20/2023 2:39:44 PM PDT by CodeToad (No Arm up! They have!)
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To: babble-on

“When they realized they had them they returned them immediately.”

I have never seen any evidence of that. They merely claimed they had none.


30 posted on 08/20/2023 2:40:49 PM PDT by CodeToad (No Arm up! They have!)
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To: babble-on

“It’s so weird that there’s not a stitch of evidence from anyone, anywhere that Trump declassified anything.”

Then you haven’t been looking.


31 posted on 08/20/2023 2:41:12 PM PDT by CodeToad (No Arm up! They have!)
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To: Chgogal
I’m talking about this from the perspective of a subordinate who doesn’t have the authority to declassify a document.

I have no doubt that the President has the authority to declassify any material at will — and without going through any formal process to do so.

But if a subordinate comes across a document with a “classified” marking on it, he would do well to have evidence that it WAS declassified before doing anything with it.

32 posted on 08/20/2023 2:53:18 PM PDT by Alberta's Child (“Freedom is just another word for nothing left to lose.”)
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To: Alberta's Child

Oh please! Who unpacked all those Obama documents? Obama?


33 posted on 08/20/2023 3:01:17 PM PDT by Chgogal (Welcome to Fuhrer Biden's Weaponized Fascist Banana Republic! It's the road to hell.)
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To: babble-on
Trump by contrast was asked repeatedly for a year, never complying.
Got a link? Or do you just like to babble on?
34 posted on 08/20/2023 3:03:21 PM PDT by lewislynn ( Trump accomplished more for America in one 4yr term than any President in your lifetime)
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To: CodeToad

What a weasels response. In other words, you’re just repeating a rumor.


35 posted on 08/20/2023 3:09:23 PM PDT by Flaming Conservative ((Pray without ceasing))
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To: Skywise

Pence ratted his fraternity brothers when he was in college.


36 posted on 08/20/2023 3:10:01 PM PDT by The_Media_never_lie ( What did Obama know, and when did he know it? Did Obama know Biden was taking bribes?)
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To: CodeToad
Pence is a known closet homosexual

Yeah my gaydar is going off when it comes to Pence.

37 posted on 08/20/2023 3:13:45 PM PDT by MinorityRepublican
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To: GulliverSwift
Trump chose Meadows to be his Chief of Staff. He chose Pence, and Barr, and Pompeo, and Bolton, and Mulvaney, and the list goes on and on and on.
38 posted on 08/20/2023 3:22:21 PM PDT by hcmama
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To: MayflowerMadam

Absolutely disgusting comment.


39 posted on 08/20/2023 3:23:06 PM PDT by hcmama
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To: CodeToad
"Pence is a known closet homosexual, and that makes him mentally ill and without any moral boundaries."

Man, the Trump fetishizing is taking people to some very dark place.

40 posted on 08/20/2023 3:24:55 PM PDT by hcmama
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