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DOJ eyeing Americans ‘like ATMs,’ spending over $6 billion to aid civil asset forfeitures, watchdog says.
Fox News ^ | 8.10.2023 | Hannah Ray Lambert

Posted on 08/10/2023 5:21:41 AM PDT by Carriage Hill

The Department of Justice is shelling out more than $6 billion to private companies to manage its asset forfeiture investigations, raising alarm from one nonprofit law firm that accuses police of "treating ordinary Americans like ATMs" and seizing their cash. "You've probably heard the adage, 'you've gotta spend money to make money.' Here, it's 'you've gotta spend money to take money,'" said Dan Alban, head of the Institute for Justice's National Initiative to End Forfeiture.

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Extended News; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: assets; civilrights; defundoj; doj; dojtheft; forfeiture; govt; legaltheft; seize; theft
The Federal government spends billions to identify and seize assets through forfeiture, records show.
1 posted on 08/10/2023 5:21:41 AM PDT by Carriage Hill
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To: Carriage Hill

Van Jones is a lowlifes lowlife but he told the truth a while back when he said “there’s a lot of money in this country”......this is exactly what he was talking about.


2 posted on 08/10/2023 5:25:22 AM PDT by V_TWIN (America...so great even the people that hate it refuse to leave!)
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To: V_TWIN

Yes, they’re using us like ATMs (from article). I knew it was happening, but I thought it was only to money-trafficking criminals, not us ordinary Americans.


3 posted on 08/10/2023 5:42:46 AM PDT by Carriage Hill (A society grows great when old men plant trees, in whose shade they know they will never sit.)
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To: Carriage Hill

“but I thought it was only to money-trafficking criminals, not us ordinary Americans.”

According to recent history, if drive across the country with 30K cash to buy a vehicle you are a money-trafficking criminal.

Transfer millions through shell LLCs? MEH!


4 posted on 08/10/2023 6:20:00 AM PDT by OSHA (Dale Carnegie has a restraining order against me.)
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To: Carriage Hill

Here are a few. Just search for cash seizure for many more. Be sure to check the last one.

https://www.latimes.com/california/story/2021-06-09/fbi-beverly-hills-safe-deposit-boxes-forfeiture-cash-jewelry

https://www.cnn.com/2022/01/31/us/california-illegal-marijuana-seizure-lawsuit/index.html

https://www.nytimes.com/2021/10/31/us/federal-agents-money-forfeiture.html

https://priceonomics.com/how-police-officers-seize-cash-from-innocent/


5 posted on 08/10/2023 6:28:54 AM PDT by OSHA (Dale Carnegie has a restraining order against me.)
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To: OSHA

W-O-W !


6 posted on 08/10/2023 6:42:28 AM PDT by Carriage Hill (A society grows great when old men plant trees, in whose shade they know they will never sit.)
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To: Carriage Hill; OSHA
The Institute for Justice does a lot of work on civil forfeiture cases.

https://ij.org/issues/private-property/civil-forfeiture/

7 posted on 08/10/2023 7:30:32 AM PDT by Oorang (Politicians:-a feeble band of lowly reptiles who shun the light and who lurk in their own dens. )
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To: Carriage Hill; OSHA

My apologies, Institute for Justice is the firm mentioned in the article...need more coffee.


8 posted on 08/10/2023 7:33:37 AM PDT by Oorang (Politicians:-a feeble band of lowly reptiles who shun the light and who lurk in their own dens. )
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To: Carriage Hill

Deep State’s model of public service: The public exists to service its so-called public servants.


9 posted on 08/10/2023 7:35:13 AM PDT by mewzilla (We will never restore the republic if we don't first secure the ballot box.)
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To: Oorang

“The Institute for Justice does a lot of work on civil forfeiture cases.”

You got it right. Thanks for the article. The more I read, the more stunned I am...


10 posted on 08/10/2023 8:03:01 AM PDT by Carriage Hill (A society grows great when old men plant trees, in whose shade they know they will never sit.)
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To: Carriage Hill
Yes, they’re using us like ATMs (from article). I knew it was happening, but I thought it was only to money-trafficking criminals, not us ordinary Americans.

It's been going on for decades. Asset forfeiture is evil, and always has been. It was always intended to be used exactly the way it has been.

11 posted on 08/10/2023 10:00:18 AM PDT by zeugma (Stop deluding yourself that America is still a free country.)
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To: zeugma

Somehow, I’m just learning that today.
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12 posted on 08/10/2023 10:05:54 AM PDT by Carriage Hill (A society grows great when old men plant trees, in whose shade they know they will never sit.)
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To: Carriage Hill

If there was one thing I could end,

It would be our current taxation without representation.

Elected officials no longer listen to their constituents when it comes to money. No matter who we seem to elect, they always capitulate to expediency and never ever tighten their own g-d belts.

And if it means non-tax contributors have to get to work or go hungry then so be it. If it means Americans need to get back to the fields to feed themselves, then so be it. If it means we stop being the world’s police man and let the chips fall where they may, then so be it.

I am tired of being the government’s ATM.


13 posted on 08/10/2023 10:06:26 AM PDT by EBH (America Blackmailed, The True Story of the World War...Coming Soon (1/21-))
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To: Carriage Hill
I knew it was happening, but I thought it was only to money-trafficking criminals, not us ordinary Americans.

The average amount they take in CAF is $600. No, I did not leave a zero or two off.

You hear about the big amounts taken but you never hear about the guy who gets pulled over for speeding and the dog "alerts" on his car and they empty his wallet even though there were no drugs found.

You can not get a lawyer to talk to you for under six hundred dollars and to "prove the money innocent" is a major court case so most people just let it go.

14 posted on 08/10/2023 10:12:24 AM PDT by Harmless Teddy Bear (Follow the money. Even if it leads you to someplace horrible it will still lead you to the truth.)
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To: EBH

“And if it means non-tax contributors have to get to work or go hungry then so be it. If it means Americans need to get back to the fields to feed themselves, then so be it. If it means we stop being the world’s police man and let the chips fall where they may, then so be it.”

It’ll take a major catastrophe awakening to get that done, I’m afraid. We’ve become too complacent and ‘comfortable’ in our own un-Consitutional misery to change without being ‘forced’ to do so.


15 posted on 08/10/2023 11:36:30 AM PDT by Carriage Hill (A society grows great when old men plant trees, in whose shade they know they will never sit.)
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To: Harmless Teddy Bear

I’ve never heard of that happening...


16 posted on 08/10/2023 11:37:26 AM PDT by Carriage Hill (A society grows great when old men plant trees, in whose shade they know they will never sit.)
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To: Carriage Hill
You can read about some of it in the Institute for Justice website but most of them never get reported.

Oddly enough the way you find it out is to read the police reports. They do keep track of it. Because no one cares. Of course the amount they report might not be the amount they took. You can see the Afroman videos to see how that works.

They are now training "cash dogs" that will alert on people carrying cash. Not drug money or anything like that. Just cash.

17 posted on 08/10/2023 12:29:09 PM PDT by Harmless Teddy Bear (Follow the money. Even if it leads you to someplace horrible it will still lead you to the truth.)
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“They are now training “cash dogs” that will alert on people carrying cash.”

Hmmm... that’ll come in real handy when CBDC goes into law, and cash becomes illegal.


18 posted on 08/10/2023 2:07:47 PM PDT by Carriage Hill (A society grows great when old men plant trees, in whose shade they know they will never sit.)
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“You’ve probably heard the adage, ‘you’ve gotta spend money to make money.’”

“Biden misunderstood; thinks ‘you’ve gotta spend money to take money.’”
(Dan Alban, head of the Institute for Justice’s National Initiative to End Forfeiture.)


19 posted on 08/11/2023 8:13:28 AM PDT by Liz (More tears are shed over answered prayers than over unanswered ones. St Teresa of Avila)
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