The great culling is taking place with sheep being separated from goats. I hope enough Americans are paying attention…
The author seems to be deliberately blurring the distinction between two different courses of action. Just because VP Pence stated that he would allow objections to state electoral votes to be heard in Congress, it doesn’t mean he’s acknowledging that he had the authority to reject those EVs outright or even just “send them back for review.”
Pence is really dense, low-IQ’s and fundamentally dishonest. He is a traitor and I believe he chose to be so. No one was asking Pence to reject votes. He was being asked to send the issue back to the States to be resolved. That was exactly the situation with electors in Pennsylvania.
I DO NOT accept that the Vice President’s role in the electoral college is purely ceremonial. It serves a tangible function, and that function was clearly needed in the 2020. Get this through your pea brain head, Pence: elections are the purview of the States. They decide how elections are conducted, how the votes are cast and counted and how electors are selected. State legislatures determine these things. It was the PA legislature asking you to not accept an uncertified slate of electors and send them back to Pennsylvania until the State Legislature resolved or not resolve their issues. Yes, the latter is an option and I would be royally pissed if it was the case because I would be disenfranchised. Accepting a non certified slate of electors has disenfranchised me. It doesn’t get any more serious for me than that and with zero doubt I blame Pence.
Pence needs to stop listening to Mother and be a honest man. Flip flopping and making whiny excuses just makes Pence like the vast majority of Republican pussies.
The question of the states determining the electors was not for Judas to make. That was a SC decision. Wonder what his bank account looks like.
Pence is a machine pol. Period.
Trump is a citizen pol. Exclamation point.
Pence - one of “them”; Trump - one of us.
Just a SWAG…
He is compromised and leveraged.
He has no choice.
I think time will tell.
Judas... er I mean pence is now claiming he did have the authority... only now, after spending all his 30 pieces of silver while his boss is being harassed, does he come out and say it- on,y now that he feels it is safe to do so does he admit whz5 everyone knew to be true!
Mike Pence drove the final nail into the coffin of Truth.
Mike Pence and his lack of integrity were on full display on January 6 2021. We all watched him politically-neuter himself in front of the nation.
This why he polls only slightly higher than herpes at the moment.
Pence has repeatedly maintained he lacked the constitutional authority to send the elections results back to the contested states for review and insisted he saw no evidence of voter fraud swaying the outcome of the 2020 election, a point Smith notes early in the indictment.
The former vice president’s own words prior to the events of the Jan. 6, 2021, Capitol riot, however, seem to contradict his post-vice-presidency narrative.
See here:
Video footage from a public address less than one week prior to the electoral certification on Jan. 6, 2021 shows Pence expressing concerns about election irregularities in the contest and vows to hear the objections of his supporters during the certification process, seemingly suggesting he held a belief in his authority to do so.
“I know we all got doubts about the election. I share the concerns of millions of Americans about voting irregularities,” he told supporters on Jan. 4. “I promise you this Wednesday. We’ll have our day in Congress. We’ll hear the objections. We’ll hear the evidence.”
Summary: first, Pence said, publicly, yea, I’ll look into the 2020 election and sure there do seem to be problems.
Then, he doesn’t do that at all.
Pence is now admitting he had not only the power, but therefore a DUTY, to stop the electoral college if there was questions of voter fraud.
Mike Pence first claimed that he did not have the power. Therefore, he had no responsibility or duty. Now, he is claiming that he had the power, but did not want to use it because of “Trumps crazy lawyers”. In a Republic, power comes with responsibility.
Congress refused to investigate or pause the electorial college to investigate valid claims of election fraud in 2020. The SCOTUS refused to hear cases on the matter. The finding in Wisconsin, Pennsylvania, George, and the specter of illegal ballot harvesting as well as turning off voter signature verification in many states, with ILLEGAL drop boxes without tracking, left the election in question.
The last recourse is the Vice President, who presides over the electorial college, to step up and force the process back to the state legislatures. This isn’t ‘insanity’ this is the system and how it’s supposed to work. The power goes back to the States. Mike Pence refused this process, and accepted the results of the 2020 election as valid, refusing investigation. Again, MIKE PENCE accepted the results of the 2020 election, despite ALL of the issues and valid requests for investigations by Congress.
That’s something Mike Pence will have to answer to God for. Democrats love him for it. He got television appearances and book deals, and money he will keep into his Presidential campaign. A campaign that was dead before it started because he didn’t demonstrate leadership, he demonstrated corruption and cowardice in the face of adversity.
Trump is right. People should feel sorry for Mike Pence. He could have stood up and make sure we had passed power back to the States and Guaranteed and investigation. He failed and is despised by all (except those that have financially benefited from the Biden Administration or Hunter Biden’s foreign deals) his acts.
BTTT
We have precedent on four occasions for challenging an election.
1) 1796, There was a flawed, illegally prepared slate of electors (I forget if it was from GA or NH). John Adams sat down when he got to reading that “vote” from the slate of electors to entertain a challenge from the floor. Jefferson instructed his supporters NOT to challenge. Adams became pres.
2) 1800 same thing, but with Jefferson counting, but he didn’t even sit down when he came to the irregular state (again, it was either GA or NH) slate. He just blew right past it. TJ became pres.
3) In 1876, three states’ electors were viewed as illegitimate. It took a join commission of Congress to settle this with the Compromise of 1877.
4) In 1960, Hawaii’s governor quickly sent in a slate of electors for, as I recall, Nixon. But the legislature sent in a second slate for JFK. Then a recount showed JFK won Hawaii, so the state (can’t recall if it was gov or leg) sent in a THIRD slate of electors for JFK. Richard Nixon accepted and read the slate from the third, recounted, slate.
Clearly a veep has the authority to a) recognize a challenge from the floor, upon which he refers the slates to the House and Senate meeting in separate sessions; b) ignore any discrepancies (Pence’s route); c) reject any slates that, in estimation were fraudulent; or d) refer the entire matter to Congress (the 1876 solution).