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Ukraine’s Challenger 2 Tanks Can Plow Right Through Russian Fortifications
Forbes ^ | May 31, 2023 | David Axe

Posted on 08/02/2023 8:13:19 PM PDT by Reverend Wright

Consider the dozer blades the Ukrainian air-assault forces have attached to at least some of their 14 British-made Challenger 2 tanks. A video the Ukrainian defense ministry posted last week depicts a 71-ton Challenger 2, fitted with a wide dozer blade, scooping up concrete “dragon’s teeth” tank obstacles—presumably at a training ground somewhere in Ukraine.

“If there is such a thing as ‘dragon’s teeth,’ there must be a ‘dragon’s dentist,’” the defense ministry quipped.

(Excerpt) Read more at forbes.com ...


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: challenger; neoconmadness; russia; ukraine
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This article from the end of May was Regime spin on NATO wonder weapons.

Amazing the nonsense that some people thought plausible only two months ago.

1 posted on 08/02/2023 8:13:19 PM PDT by Reverend Wright
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Why not just put armor on a bulldozer? It’d have to be cheaper than using a main battle tank for this.


2 posted on 08/02/2023 8:16:58 PM PDT by BenLurkin (The above is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion, or satire, or both.)
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“Amazing the nonsense that some people thought plausible only two months ago.”

My God! Did they REALLY believe that crap and then blame Zelensky when his men got destroyed in those Death Traps. Are they THAT clueless?

Did they really need to DESTROY Ukraine to figure out the obvious, which is that our weapons are for combat against Third World countries, not top-tier countries?


3 posted on 08/02/2023 8:20:38 PM PDT by BobL (Trump has all the right Enemies; DeSantis has all the wrong Friends)
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To: BenLurkin

I think one of the issues is that every vehicle really needs a mine plough or roller.

The engineering vehicles with the ploughs can be at the front, but the mine field is being re-mined remotely.

So the vehicles further back still hit mines even if they are on “de-mined” routes.


4 posted on 08/02/2023 8:21:49 PM PDT by Reverend Wright ( Everything touched by progressives, dies !)
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Minefields are destroying Ukraine’s counterattack.


5 posted on 08/02/2023 8:23:23 PM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (Mark Twain once said, "It is easier to fool people than to convince them they have been fooled.")
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To: BobL

I think some of the more recent leaks imply that they knew all along, but somehow pretended Ukraine “fighting spirit” would carry the day.

I still think there was some magical thinking that somehow their vehicles and “NATO training” were not going to be shown up as paper tigers.

Although the UK appears to have prohibited them from actually using Challengers in an attack.


6 posted on 08/02/2023 8:25:11 PM PDT by Reverend Wright ( Everything touched by progressives, dies !)
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To: Reverend Wright

Putting dozer blades on tanks was used by the US in WW II to get through the Hedgerow country of France.


7 posted on 08/02/2023 8:25:15 PM PDT by hinckley buzzard ( Resist the narrative.)
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All armored land vehicles cannot survive in a battle against an opponent with modest technological capabilities. Suicide drones have been devastating in this conflict. Its obvious to military observers. The US Marine Corp is phasing out its armor corp. The US Navy will eventually concede that surface combatants are equally obsolete death traps. Helicopters cannot survive modern warfare. Warfare is changing but it will not cease.


8 posted on 08/02/2023 8:27:01 PM PDT by allendale
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Apparently it helps if they’re not being shot at.

3 Ways to Cross Dragon’s Teeth on the Siegfried Line 1944 HD
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cRld768HDyc

(#2 looks like it might be possible under fire?)


9 posted on 08/02/2023 8:30:14 PM PDT by BenLurkin (The above is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion, or satire, or both.)
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To: BenLurkin

D90 Cat


10 posted on 08/02/2023 8:30:47 PM PDT by Jewbacca (The residents of Iroquois territory may not determine whether Jews may live in Jerusalem.)
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To: allendale

Exactly


11 posted on 08/02/2023 8:30:54 PM PDT by KeyLargo
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To: Reverend Wright

Hey, maybe you can update us on the tens of thousands of Syrians and Africans that Putin was going to recruit?

https://understandingwar.org/backgrounder/russia-mobilizes-reinforcements-syria-and-africa-ukraine


12 posted on 08/02/2023 8:32:05 PM PDT by Redmen4ever
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To: Reverend Wright

Putin and Z are not banning washing machines, and threatening to bomb American Citizens. It’s a distraction. The biggest enemy is the left HERE. They must be defeated.


13 posted on 08/02/2023 8:32:23 PM PDT by cowboyusa (YESHUA IS KING OF AMERICA! AMERICA FIRST! DEATH TO MARXISM AN GLOBALISM! Trump 2024, NO more Mr Nice)
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To: Reverend Wright

Wonder weapons take wonder crews.

It takes several years to be combat ready in an F16 for example.

Oh, you can fly it in two hours if already a pilot. Heck, a good pilot can watch the how to on youtube and fly it fine.

Combat is a different beast.

I’m sure it’s the same with tanks.


14 posted on 08/02/2023 8:32:54 PM PDT by Jewbacca (The residents of Iroquois territory may not determine whether Jews may live in Jerusalem.)
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Ukraine’s Challenger 2 Tanks Can Plow Right Through Russian Fortifications

Good rule of thumb: any Neocon headline with the word "Can," "Could," "May," or "Might" means we'll never see it happen.

15 posted on 08/02/2023 8:37:02 PM PDT by Right_Wing_Madman
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To: BobL; All

“Did they really need to DESTROY Ukraine to figure out the obvious, which is that our weapons are for combat against Third World countries, not top-tier countries?”

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

Actually, Putin is the one destroying RUSSIAN land right now... That’s the irony of it all...
What is being mostly destroyed and polluted by millions of Russian mines happens to be on Russian soil (!), right?
At least if Putin’s “official annexation” of the 4 Donbas regions has to be believed. He mined his own Donbas!
Putin is bombing “his own country”. So... ss that treason against mother Russia?

is what Putin has annexed and being considered as


16 posted on 08/02/2023 8:37:35 PM PDT by USA-FRANCE
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To: cowboyusa

Just wait till they come tell us we are required to put solar panels on the roof.

Those will work great under a foot of snow here in northern Michigan.


17 posted on 08/02/2023 8:38:43 PM PDT by MarMema
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To: Jewbacca

Exactly. We all witnessed that in “Independence Day”.


18 posted on 08/02/2023 8:40:05 PM PDT by DesertRhino (Dogs are called man's best friend. Moslems hate dogs. Add it up..)
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To: BobL

So our weapons can’t work against first tier countries?
Well that’s fascinating because we are a first tier country.
So I guess you’re saying the best militaries in the world can’t do anything against each other?


19 posted on 08/02/2023 8:43:14 PM PDT by Williams (Stop Tolerating The Intolerant)
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Actually, Putin is the one destroying RUSSIAN land right now... That’s the irony of it all...

We'll see of a lot of this from you in the next year: claiming victory after each defeat.

20 posted on 08/02/2023 8:43:48 PM PDT by Right_Wing_Madman
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