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Police wear a lot of heavy gear--are they expected to jump into the water to rescue someone who jumped into the water to avoid arrest?
1 posted on 07/31/2023 5:07:40 PM PDT by rod5591
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I’m going to side with the cops on this one. No duty to protect - an arrest evading drug addict.


2 posted on 07/31/2023 5:10:13 PM PDT by Magnum44 (...against all enemies, foreign and domestic... )
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To: rod5591

Reminds me of the joke: If you were taking photos along a stream and saw Hillary Clinton drowning, what exposure settings would you use?


3 posted on 07/31/2023 5:11:01 PM PDT by SpaceBar
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To: rod5591

The kid chose... poorly.


4 posted on 07/31/2023 5:15:03 PM PDT by Larry Lucido (Donate! Don't just post clickbait!)
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To: rod5591

Jump in to save a little girl or a puppy? Yes.

Jump in to save a “relapsed heroin addict” who will likely try to drown me? Hard no.


5 posted on 07/31/2023 5:16:56 PM PDT by DarrellZero
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I wonder if an accurate headline, Cops accused of standing by watching resistive heroin addict drown In Tennessee river, would change the interest in that story?


7 posted on 07/31/2023 5:19:57 PM PDT by Yogafist
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Swift water rescue requires highly specialized training and proper gear.

Rule # 1: “Don’t become part of the problem”


8 posted on 07/31/2023 5:22:55 PM PDT by lightman (I am a binary Trinitarian. Deal with it!)
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I am an experienced, heavy duty swimmer, red cross certified (back in the day) lifesaving, lifeguard on lake Michigan 2 seasons. Not bragging but saved 10-12 people in those days. They are exhausting experiences. No way in hell would I go in the water with a police rig on. You have to pretty much get down to your skivvies to have a chance. There are other options such as throwing flotation devices, long poles etc. As far as stopping others, that probably saved their lives. Lifesaving in water requires many “tricks” and skills which need to be learned and not ad libbed.


9 posted on 07/31/2023 5:26:33 PM PDT by Bonemaker (invictus maneo“What were you doing in the store? You were eating the food?”)
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It was his choice to flee them, he could have just quit and been arrested.

Cops are not lifeguards either. Not trained for it and lifegurds don’t wear heavy gear that will drag you down along with an uncooperative suspect.


10 posted on 07/31/2023 5:27:05 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; not averse to Going Bronson.)
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Yep.

I had lifeguard training growing up.

I was sitting on the side of my friend’s pool watching my son and family swim. He got in distress and started drowning. I knew, immediately I couldn’t jump into save him as he was panicked and could have pulled me under.

I screamed for help and grabbed the net pole nearby. He grabbed and I was able to pull him out. Would’ve been 2 dead if I had jumped in. It was a split-second decision.


12 posted on 07/31/2023 5:30:20 PM PDT by RushIsMyTeddyBear ("Equity" = "All animals are equal. Some animals are more equal than others.")
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Play stupid games, win stupid prizes.

Now can we distribute all the seized fentanyl to the homeless camps?


13 posted on 07/31/2023 5:33:53 PM PDT by eyeamok
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To: rod5591

Innocent people often run from cops and jump in rivers.
I did that just twice last week.


15 posted on 07/31/2023 5:51:07 PM PDT by EEGator
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Even if he wasn’t a heroin addict and/or a criminal, if you are not trained in open water rescue, you are a fool to go in.

Fire departments do not send firefighters who are not trained in open water rescue into the water nor those who are not trained in confined space into confined spaces, etc.

Just because you are a lifeguard at a pool doesn’t mean you can do open water. That’s an entirely different animal.

It serves no purpose to kill rescuers in a vain attempt to rescue others.

Had the officers allowed bystanders to act, they’d be facing lawsuits from those families.

If you do not use your head in these circumstances, you become an incident within an incident.


17 posted on 07/31/2023 5:53:19 PM PDT by rey
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she named her son Mika?


18 posted on 07/31/2023 5:55:10 PM PDT by bankwalker (Repeal the 19th ...)
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His mother should have taught him not to do drugs, took him to swimming lessons, and drummed into his head, that he should never run from police.


21 posted on 07/31/2023 5:58:17 PM PDT by mass55th (“Courage is being scared to death, but saddling up anyway.” ― John Wayne)
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Suicide by cop action? Certainly not the cops’ fault, if you run from them. He wanted to drown. Family gets nothing.


22 posted on 07/31/2023 6:09:35 PM PDT by roadcat
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Once you CHOOSE to Resist Arrest EVERYTHING that follows is on YOU. You’ll find Sympathy between “Shit” and “Syphilis” in the Dictionary.


23 posted on 07/31/2023 6:12:46 PM PDT by Feckless (The US Gubbmint / This Tagline CENSORED by FR \ IrOnic, ain't it?)
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News flash to those complaining.

The police are under no obligation to save you.


27 posted on 07/31/2023 6:31:10 PM PDT by cableguymn
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“The only time the government has a duty to try to rescue you is if they already have you “in custody” — i.e. you’re imprisoned, or locked up at a mental institution.”

“This legal doctrine states that as an average person you are under no legal obligation to help someone in distress. Even if helping an imperiled person would impose little or no risk to yourself, you do not commit a crime if you choose not to render assistance.”


29 posted on 07/31/2023 6:34:52 PM PDT by chuck allen
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Why the law suit? Clabo was cured of his addiction.


32 posted on 07/31/2023 6:41:17 PM PDT by ConservativeInPA (The Delay Trump’s trial, delay. Elect Trump President. Trump pardons himself. )
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This happened here last week..

Posted at 1:03 PM, Jul 25, 2023 and last updated 1:06 PM, Jul 25, 2023

CINCINNATI — A staff member dove in to save a guest who was swimming at Coney Island Sunlight Pool and was taken to the hospital on Monday, according to a spokesperson for the park.

The spokesperson said the staff member jumped into the water “in an attempt to rescue a guest” and was pulled underwater. Lifeguards then rescued both the guest and the staff member.

The guest did not need medical attention after the incident, but the staff member was taken to a hospital by the Anderson Township Fire Department, the spokesperson said.

No information has been released about that person’s condition.


34 posted on 07/31/2023 7:05:13 PM PDT by chuck allen
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