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Ukraine war: Putin says Russia does not reject peace talks
BBC ^ | July 29, 2023

Posted on 07/29/2023 6:47:00 PM PDT by McGruff

Speaking after meeting African leaders in St Petersburg, he said an African peace initiative as well as a Chinese one could serve as a basis for this.

President Putin also said it was hard to implement a ceasefire when the Ukrainian army was on the offensive.

Ukraine and Russia have previously said they will not come to the negotiating table without certain preconditions.

Ukraine wants its borders as they were in 1991 to be reinstated, something the Kremlin is deeply opposed to.

Moscow argues instead that for negotiations to take place, Kyiv would have to accept its country's "new territorial reality".

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1 posted on 07/29/2023 6:47:00 PM PDT by McGruff
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To: McGruff

Biden does-10% is his ya know.


2 posted on 07/29/2023 6:49:14 PM PDT by TornadoAlley3 ( I'm Proud To Be An Okie From Muskogee)
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To: McGruff

Oh come on how can he say the Ukrainian army is on the offensive. And why does he discuss peace talks?

I was TOLD here by military geniuses, including Col MacGregor, that Ukraine is already finished, its army obliterated.

This article must be neocon misinformation.


3 posted on 07/29/2023 6:50:21 PM PDT by Williams (Stop Tolerating The Intolerant)
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To: Williams

You are right. Ukraine is winning in every way.


4 posted on 07/29/2023 6:54:30 PM PDT by Dogbert41 (“Blessed are the peacemakers, for they will be called children of God” -Matthew 5:9)
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To: McGruff

I saw a movie once where the evil doer said: give me what I want, and I will leave you alone.

Ukraine says: get the ‘f’ out of our land, and we’ll let you get out alive.


5 posted on 07/29/2023 6:54:54 PM PDT by adorno
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To: Williams
Ukraine is already finished, its army obliterated.

Well, it's not that far off.

6 posted on 07/29/2023 6:55:31 PM PDT by McGruff (Don't underestimate Joe's ability to f*** things up - Barack Obama)
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To: McGruff

So far Macgregor is 17 months off since he first started making that weekly or bi-monthly prediction.


7 posted on 07/29/2023 7:17:26 PM PDT by ansel12 ((NATO warrior under Reagan, and RA under Nixon, bemoaning the pro-Russians from Vietnam to Ukraine.))
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To: Williams

Ukraine is worse off than Germany was in December 44. As such going from a 90k man strike force in February 22 to the 600k it will take is about to happen. Ukraine will be broken in every sector by October. Once a single front breaks all hell will break loose.

Simply stopping the weapons delivery under the grain deal has effectively created an over stretched supply network getting equipment to the south.

Just that 100k 900 tank force has had success enough for a Ukrainian pause in Backmut. When the next 200k join the fight Ukraine effectively beat. However, Russia is sending over 500k into Ukraine by September.


8 posted on 07/29/2023 7:18:32 PM PDT by Jumper
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To: McGruff
Col Douglas MacGregor (ret) has often said Putin has always been willing to negotiate. This Twitter account asserts that Putin has made a UN investigation of bio warfare labs in the Ukraine a requirement of peacetalks, and he also asserts that Biden won't allow peace because he doesn't want exposure of his  lab, Metabiota:

 prior thread about Biden's Metabiota, and assertions Metabiota is among 50 bio warfare labs operating in the Ukraine.

I posted as I have because I am investigating the assertions made in that Twitter post.

I went looking for Russia's UN petition. The UN doesn't have a copy posted and has dismissed Russia's request for an investigation as 'baseless' and 'lacking  evidence', as have all the usual actors in the mainstream media.

The only place I could find any details about Putins UN petition was on the Russia.gov website. I posted a thread for that information here:

Irina Yarovaya presented the outcome report of the Parliamentary Commission on Investigation into Activities of the US Biological Laboratories in Ukraine PLUS MY COMMENTS

I can see why Russia may include investigation of those labs as a peace talk requirement, but I haven't found any text specifying his peace negotiation terms.

I know Zelensky has said in the past he would only negotiate if Russia left the Ukraine and compensated Zelensky for damage done.

9 posted on 07/29/2023 7:18:44 PM PDT by ransomnote (IN GOD WE TRUST)
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To: McGruff

A non-starter.


10 posted on 07/29/2023 7:20:56 PM PDT by ought-six (Multiculturalism is national suicide, and political correctness is the cyanide capsule. )
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To: Dogbert41

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA go try to rent an apartment in Kyiv! I dare you. But I know you won’t. Arm chair generals never go fight.


11 posted on 07/29/2023 7:21:52 PM PDT by entropy12 (Career politicians are there to build wealth. Trump is in there to lose wealth to serve people.)
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To: adorno
Basically, yes.
12 posted on 07/29/2023 7:29:00 PM PDT by Widget Jr (🇺🇦 Слава Україні! 🇺🇦 Sláva Ukrayíni! 🇺🇦 ☭ No CCCP 2.0 ☭)
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To: McGruff

Meanwhile Shoigu is schlepping around North Korea hat in hand for weapons.


13 posted on 07/29/2023 7:39:18 PM PDT by SpaceBar
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To: SpaceBar

Did you hear, Ukraine is using North Korean rockets.

https://freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/4171267/posts


14 posted on 07/29/2023 7:45:17 PM PDT by McGruff (Don't underestimate Joe's ability to f*** things up - Barack Obama)
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To: adorno

“Ukraine says: get the ‘f’ out of our land, and we’ll let you get out alive.”

Ukraine reminds me of The Black Knight in that Monty Python movie.


15 posted on 07/29/2023 7:47:11 PM PDT by McGruff (Don't underestimate Joe's ability to f*** things up - Barack Obama)
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To: McGruff

they never have


16 posted on 07/29/2023 7:53:41 PM PDT by mylife (I was a sort of country boy, a cockeyed optimist, wrapped in international intrigue and espionage)
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To: Williams

Smiles... I agree with you.

MacGreggor, and what is other comedian’s name... ah yes.. Scott Ritter!
Those two are spewing out “predictions” that systematically turns out to be flat out wrong and utterly obsolete. They truly are comedians.


17 posted on 07/29/2023 8:06:00 PM PDT by USA-FRANCE
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To: Dogbert41

“You are right. Ukraine is winning in every way.”

>>>>>>>>>>>>>

Compared to what Russia stole initially in Ukraine... Ukraine has managed to take back about half of it. Not bad, knowing that Russia is the number two military force in the world and that they did a sneak-attack On Ukraine without even declaring war... which makes it look like a terrorist attack.


18 posted on 07/29/2023 8:09:44 PM PDT by USA-FRANCE
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To: McGruff

Yes, and they are using Russian and European tanks, Chinese and Turkish drones...
They use weapons, indeed.


19 posted on 07/29/2023 8:12:08 PM PDT by USA-FRANCE
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To: McGruff

Of course Putin wants peace!

A peace of Ukraine, a peace of Poland, a peace of Finland...


20 posted on 07/29/2023 8:28:14 PM PDT by MeganC (There is nothing feminine about feminism. )
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