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Historical falsification in the service of pro-war propaganda
World Socialist Web Site (filthy commies) ^ | July 18th, 2023 | Tom Mackaman

Posted on 07/25/2023 11:54:42 AM PDT by Mariner

In its latest foray into the realm of historical falsification, the New York Times on Tuesday published a news analysis pinning the blame for World War II on the Soviet Union. The lengthy article authored by Andrew E. Kramer, entitled “A Current War Collides with the Past: Remnants of World War II in Ukraine,” makes no mention of either the Holocaust or the Nazi war of annihilation against the Soviet people.

The article is only the latest historical lie by the Times in the service of the US-NATO proxy war in Ukraine.

From the war’s start, the Times has attempted to legitimize the pro-fascist narrative of the Ukrainian nationalists. Key elements have been the downplaying of the Holocaust and the collaboration of the Ukrainian nationalists in the mass murder of Jews and Poles; the minimizing of the alliance of the Organization of Ukrainian Nationalists (OUN) with the Nazi regime; the assertion of a political and moral equivalence between Nazi Germany and the Soviet Union; and the repeated claims that there is no neo-Nazi and fascist influence in present-day Ukraine.

It is within this context that Kramer puts forth the astonishing claim that World War II started with the Soviet Union’s invasion of Poland.

(Excerpt) Read more at wsws.org ...


TOPICS: Editorial; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: frtankiebrigade; media; nazis; pic; sovietunion; tankie; ussr; war
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Even the Trotskyites are calling BS on the western propaganda machine.

My musician buddy sent me this thinking he was telling me something new...

1 posted on 07/25/2023 11:54:42 AM PDT by Mariner
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To: Mariner
The Walter Duranty Times, home of lie-spewing fabulists since 1930.
2 posted on 07/25/2023 11:56:14 AM PDT by kiryandil (China Joe and Paycheck Hunter - the Chink in America's defenses)
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To: kiryandil

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Walter_Duranty

Now lifting up Nazis.


3 posted on 07/25/2023 11:58:35 AM PDT by Mariner (War Criminal #18)
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“Kramer puts forth the astonishing claim that World War II started with the Soviet Union’s invasion of Poland”

Well it was the combined Soviet-German invasion of Poland, but yes, that was the point of no return, since it forced Britain into the war, as they were allied with Poland, and once Britain was in the war, then France was dragged in as well.


4 posted on 07/25/2023 12:10:01 PM PDT by Boogieman
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To: Mariner

Everybody knows it started when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor.


5 posted on 07/25/2023 12:11:15 PM PDT by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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It wasn’t over, though!


6 posted on 07/25/2023 12:15:01 PM PDT by kiryandil (China Joe and Paycheck Hunter - the Chink in America's defenses)
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Would Nazi Germany have invaded Poland absent the Nazi-Russia non-aggression pact? Did not Russia participate in the invasion of Poland which started World War Two?

The Nazis betrayed their Russian allies and the West were fools for supporting Russia instead of letting the two dictatorships bleed each other white. The West compounded the injustice by letting Russia seize half of Europe after the war.


7 posted on 07/25/2023 12:15:10 PM PDT by MeganC (There is nothing feminine about feminism. )
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To: kiryandil

Nothing is over until we say it is!


8 posted on 07/25/2023 12:15:34 PM PDT by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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To: Mariner

Well, if the Communists hadn’t been trying to overthrow the Weimar Republic, Hitler would have died a starving artist.


9 posted on 07/25/2023 12:16:13 PM PDT by Chad C. Mulligan
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To: dfwgator
Tajemnica Westerplatte (2013) is a very good movie.
10 posted on 07/25/2023 12:16:22 PM PDT by kiryandil (China Joe and Paycheck Hunter - the Chink in America's defenses)
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To: MeganC

The reason that Stalin didn’t sign with Britain and France was they would not agree to allow Stalin to place his soldiers in Poland. Poles understood what that meant.


11 posted on 07/25/2023 12:17:14 PM PDT by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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To: kiryandil

It’s on YouTube.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NGYljoCe4KI

I was able to visit Westerplatte last year when I went to Gdańsk.


12 posted on 07/25/2023 12:20:47 PM PDT by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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Here’s the thing. Stalin really didn’t want the German Communists to suceed, as he feared they would wrest control of the World Communist movement from Moscow.

Stalin basically told Hitler who the Communists were, so Hitler could wipe them out.


13 posted on 07/25/2023 12:22:27 PM PDT by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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I’ll bet that was a treat. :)


14 posted on 07/25/2023 12:22:50 PM PDT by kiryandil (China Joe and Paycheck Hunter - the Chink in America's defenses)
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Well now that Schicklegruber is a swell guy, perhaps the left will stop screaming that every Republican presidential candidate is literally Hitler.

And now that the Holocaust is a nothing burger, maybe they'll stop smearing Gutfeld.

15 posted on 07/25/2023 12:23:12 PM PDT by Sirius Lee (They intend to murder us. Prep if you want to live and live like you are prepping for eternal life)
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Poland got screwed all the way around. No wonder they’re so militant these days.


16 posted on 07/25/2023 12:24:18 PM PDT by MeganC (There is nothing feminine about feminism. )
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To: kiryandil

The whole Trojmiasto area is great, we stayed at the Grand Hotel at Sopot. I wanted to go to the Hel Peninsula but we didn’t have enough time.


17 posted on 07/25/2023 12:25:20 PM PDT by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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Yes. Russia had all that arable land just sitting there. Russia unfairly enticed poor defenseless good ol’ party animal Hitler to attack it. Yep. That’s the ticket.


18 posted on 07/25/2023 1:45:16 PM PDT by Seruzawa ("The Political left is the Garden of Eden of incompetence" - Marx the Smarter (Groucho))
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" makes no mention of either the Holocaust or the Nazi war of annihilation against the Soviet people"

The NYT article is at https://archive.is/fGT6T. Kramer did not mention the holocaust or the losses Russia had during WW-II, because he was not writing about them. He was writing only about the military campaigns and the parallels the current war has to WW-II. He wrote about a complete different subject than what Mackaman at WWW is. To know that would mean actually looking up and reading the NYT article.

On top of this, Mackman falsifies what Kramer wrote. Mackman claims Kramer wrote:

"World War II began in what is now Ukraine in 1939 with a Soviet invasion into territory then controlled by Poland in western Ukraine, at a time when the Soviet Union and Nazi Germany were in a military alliance. When that pact broke down in 1941, Germany attacked and fought from west to east across Ukraine."
What Kramer wrote:

World War II reached what is now Ukraine in 1939 with a Soviet invasion into territory then controlled by Poland in western Ukraine, at a time when the Soviet Union and Nazi Germany were in a military alliance. When that pact broke down in 1941, Germany attacked Ukraine from west to east.
Changing the single word of "reached to "began" changes the entire meaning of what Kramer wrote. The rest of the article is built off this fabrication.

Because as we should all know by now, commies lie, and lie badly.

19 posted on 07/25/2023 2:32:08 PM PDT by Widget Jr (🇺🇦 Слава Україні! 🇺🇦 Sláva Ukrayíni! 🇺🇦 ☭ No CCCP 2.0 ☭)
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What Kramer wrote: World War II reached what is now Ukraine in 1939 with a Soviet invasion into territory then controlled by Poland in western Ukraine, at a time when the Soviet Union and Nazi Germany were in a military alliance. When that pact broke down in 1941, Germany attacked Ukraine from west to east. The article actually mentions that change/edit to the published wording after the initial uproar. That's not to say the commie bastard isn't lying about that too.
20 posted on 07/25/2023 2:39:49 PM PDT by Mariner (War Criminal #18)
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